In reply to: Well, a treadmill is not a space ship in orbit. If you're not in a body harness, and you're not holding up your weight with your arms, your full weight is on your feet. LMFAO thats what i was thinking. If you're in this atmosphere and you're not in a anti-gravity chamber im pretty sure weight still applies.....So like i could jump off a bridge and float to the ground right?
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I need to lose weight.
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Actually the dude is right treadmill is easier than road running because it's less impactful on your joints and the treadmill absorbs some of the weight meanwhile the road doesn't absorb any of the weight. Anyways, for the dude who wants to lose weight, the bottom line is you need to consume less calories than you burn. Eat vegetables and fruit in place of that junk food. Drink water too. Try to think of eating as something to fuel your body, not something that you should always enjoy.
For exercises, a basic weight lifting regimen helps lose weight. For running, I have a couple workouts that you can do. But first you should be able to run at least three miles fairly comfortably.
Long Run Day: Pretty self explainitory. Just run at a slow pace for at least 1.5 times more than normal.
Can't Remember the Name Day: Run fairly slowly for about 10 mins then at about 75-80% for 2 mins and walk for a 1 minute. Repeat. As you get better at this the walking part should be eliminated. If doing on a track, you could also do distance as well.
Sprints: Nuff said
Those are the ones I can think of now. If you have any more questions, just post and I'll try to get back to you. -
wow. i was amazed at how many replies i got lol. about the treadmill thing. i dont think they would put them in gyms for nothing, and also i just barely grasp it for balance, and to know how close i am to the edge of the back of the treadmill. also i never found out about how many calories your body burns it self. and is eating about 1200 calories a day okay? btw im 15, 5'11 200 lbsfor breakfast i had a cup of lowfat yogurt, banana, and a grapefruitfor lunch i had a v8 water, a lean chicken sandwich, and an applefor dinner i had 1 serving of tuna. any improvements?Thanks soooo much for all the help. its reall good knowing you have support! ill keep posting! bye- rob
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Let's just put it like this, the treadmill is easier than road running.
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the guy is right. by a physics standpoint, the treadmill does not make you do as much work as walking on the ground. if you want to do a great cardio workout, and build some muscle, try jump rope. i havent found anything more effective, fast, and great a building fast twitch muscle than the jump rope.
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Some high-impact exercises can be stressful on the joints. To the extent that the rubber belt absorbs some of the impact when you run (but no more that if you ran on a stationary hard surface covered with the same rubber), then a treadmill is a good thing, as is a stationary bicycle, etc.These machines are all computerized now and will tell you how many calories you're burning, and the do burn calories, regardless of whether they are easier than running or jumping rope. If the original poster likes the treadmill, I'd encourage him. (Where I live, running in the street is possible, but not very practical.)So, original poster, any and all exercise you do is good...you just have to stick with it. Same applies whether or not you're overweight.(Me bad...didn't make to the gym today to ask the trainer about all this treadmill dissing stuff.)
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hehe again thanks for the replies Yea i was wondering about how many calories less then recommended you can not have(if any at all) befor your body starts to "panick"?Thanks ive been using the treadmill still :P im going to try jump rope tomorrow and how it goes! thanks again guys, and ladies ^_--rob
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Treadmill is good. Other things wouldn't hurt either (long brisk walk every day, etc.) It all adds up, and variety makes it less boring.
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average joe is right about the tread miil
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Can anyone explain this scientifically? I assume this idea is more than a gut feeling. The idea of being weightless on a treadmill is just hard to comprehend. Just telling me "he's right" doesn't do it for me.As I said, for the benefit of the original poster, treadmills will still burn calories. They're much better than doing nothing. Stairmasters will burn even more calories (on the average), but are tougher on the knees.The beauty of being active is that there's more of a gain than just burning calories while you're exercising. It seems to increase your metabolism, is healthy for the body in a lot of ways, and makes you feel good.
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PHYSICS LESSON, my favorite. okay, lets start with vectors. vectors are simply a way of saying a direction and a force. ex. if i am to push myself foward with a force of 1N, i would have a vector cooresponding to that motion. When walking. we have two vectors (simple version). 1. the first one is that of you pushing yourself against gravity. your legs, holding you up, is a vector (scientificly this is force normal, but we wont go there). 2. the force you use to push yourself foward is another vector. (this is the stregth needed in the butt, and hamstring muscles)Add those two up, and what do you get - a foward motion that is not dependant on any outside force.Treadmill - you have, umm, not so many vectors.1. force to hold yourself up against gravity (same as Number 1 above)and thats itad those two together, what do you get. Simple, you just stand. it takes an added, outside force for you to walk foward. this force is supplied by the treadmill, and therefore, you legs do not have to do as much work in the butt and hampstring area.i know this wasnt greatly worded, but im not sure how else to say it. i wish i could draw a picture, it might help. but, in conclusion, though you do some work pushing yourself forward on the treadmill, most of the work for that vector is suplied by the treadmills motor.
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OK, I know all about vector analysis, and if there's no forward vector component, you fall off the back end of the treadmill.So, you weren't impressed by my flatbed truck analogy?
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you might be running full out, but the flatbed is still helping you move. if you want to try it out, run on a treadmill for an hour, and see how tired you are. sometime after you recover, run around your block for an hour, and see if your more tired. though treadmills are good, actuall running uses many more of your control muscles to keep you balanced, and smooth against a changing terrain.
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In reply to:the flatbed is still helping you moveIf you think about frames of reference, what you said makes absolutely no sense. When you're running westward, you're running in opposition to the earth's rotation. What effect does that have?In reply to:actuall running uses many more of your control muscles to keep you balancedI'll buy that. It would be interesting to see the result of a metablolic trial to see how much difference it makes.
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I find running on the ground easier than the treadmill.Just like the machine bicycles are hard than regular bicycles for me.Oh well, maybe I'm wierd.BTW, don't walk on the treadmill. Run as long as you can and just try to get your heartrate up there as long as you can. You gotta get your body into an aerobic (sp?) before it starts burnin those calories, if you are extremely outta shape I think it is something like 20 minutes.So in short: Run, don't walk, if you can help it.
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actually, walking or runnung the same DISTANCE will burn the same amount of calories.
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From a paper by Panos T. Pappas (2003):
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Raising and lowering the legs or the body for walking and mostly running is an oscillatory motion that raises the "center of gravity" of lower leg or the "center of gravity" of the body (in case off running) to 0.2 to 0.6 m or more.
The muscle energy stored in potential energy, E = mgh, when the leg or the body is raised is lost into heat when the leg or the body is lowered to normal height.On the other hand, the energy needed to keep the body's constant speed on an horizontal road is minimal to practical nothing - equal to that of air friction.
Therefore, the efficiency for a walking and particular running human or animal is very very low. Estimated to less than 1% for walking and less than 0.1% for running.
The author's point is that bicyling much more efficient than either walking or running (so, for time spent, running or walking is better exercise...no effort wasted periodically raising and lowering one's center of gravity.)
But running is a lot tougher on the joints than bicycling. is.
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In reply to: actually, walking or runnung the same DISTANCE will burn the same amount of calories. Uh no. Actually you are wrong. The amount of oxygen you consume determines how many calories you burn. Running is going to burn more calories than walking, common sense.
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i said distance, not time. it is true though, i have checked if with a professor of nutrition, Ph. D., this morning when i read your statment. you, of course, have your own free will, and if you choose therefore not to believe me, so be it. go look it up for yourself.