Im ugly and want to have sex/get laid with a girl

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Your basically saying that all girls are chavs? Thats just fucked up. All countries have their own chavs. Why does it matter what they say or think?

no i'm saying there is a LOT of them.

yes it does matter what they say and think because it creates such a negative effect on you, because you know they're telling the truth, its so bad because there is a whol bunch of them and what makes it so bad is that they're usually the 'hot' 'pretty' ones doing it...

But if they're nasty bitches who don't give a shit about how you feel, then them being hot seems to be the only thing going for them. Why waste your time with them?And there may be a lot of girls like that, but there are much more that are nice, sweet AND hot! Ya just gotta stop staring at the girls with their thongs hanging over their shoulders...

thats the point though, looks are so fucking important and they know it, so they know it wouldnt matter if they had an attitude and acted like complete twats, because they know they're hot and they know guys will be desperate to get with them regardless of their personality and how the act....AND the thing that pisses me off is that they're only really nice to guys they fancy and their slag mates, and they are a bitch to everyone else, especially mingers and old people. so in terms of being really, really nice they can, just not to guys who aren't 'hot'/'buff'/'cute'/'gorge'/ etc etc

OK, you're still focusing on the bitches, what about the other girls? The nice ones. The ones that are not just nice to the guys they fancy, but to everyone (almost). They do exist and as odd as it may seem, to some people looks aren't the major factor! True, we have become very superficial but nobody is so ugly that they can't get a gf/bf. They just gottta find the right kinda person.And you judge the hot girls for only being nice to guys they like, what about you, all you seem to do is focus on the hot girls. Have you given others a chance?

i dont focus on the hot girls and yes i have given the 'nice ones' a chance, they only resulting difference is that they reject me in a 'nice' way.

okay buddy seriosly don't go generalizing every girl out there. work on your self esteem problems, gain some confidence and even you can find someone. I honestly believe that.

I'll have to agree with Unforgetto on this, plastic surgery or blind chic. Its probably one of the easiest decisions you'll ever have to make.

I think you need to see the world for what it is. Why would a beautiful girl want to date a guy that isn't good looking? If she can get a Ferrari why would she get a Ford? Life is just like this and that is just the way it is!

Okay, I haven't cussed at you. I expect that you not cuss at me. I don't appreciate being labeled a bitch because I'm not one. And just so you know: I dated a fit/hot/buff/gorgeous/etc guy who called me that and he got slugged right in the jaw. I don't make exceptions. And I'm not a girl. I'm a WOMAN. I'm really not all about looks. A lot of the guys I've dated haven't been what you call "hot". I dated them because they seemed nice and turned out to be jerks. The keyword is THEY. Not all of the male population. Just the ones I dated. I can't blame all for the mistakes of a few although I would have liked to at one point in time. Save the Chad Michael Murray thing for someone who hasn't heard it. I agree. Chad is a good looking guy BUT he's married and he's not my type AND like you said, I know nothing about him. I like bigger guys. My guys is overweight, shorter than my dad (who's 6 ft even), going bald, and is also hypoglycemic (something I never ever wanted to deal with in a relationship..EVER) BUT he's so darn nice I can't tell him no. And I love the way he looks at me like I can do no wrong. His eyes were what really did me in. They're beautiful. He opens doors. He's polite and kind. My parents love him. And by anyone else's standards he's probably not "HOT" but he is to me. And he doesn't call me a bitch. I ain't banging down the doors of any hot guy I meet. The nice guys do win. The just might have to wait a little bit longer.I agree with whomever said that you see more focused on being angry than you do on finding a solution to your problem because you've shot down all of our ideas. I have to say it even though it's rather rude: If you don't want to take the advice that people have given you most of which has been pretty good advice you really don't have much room to whine about your situation because it makes you sound like you'd rather pout about your predicament than figure out how to fix it. Regardless of what you think you have more control than you think. The reason you've "lost" that control is because you keeping letting other people call the shots and tell you how to feel about yourself.And just to say it again, I don't know many women who would date a guy who thinks they're all bitches.

fair enough on your partner you're with.....but i wonder how long it'll take before you give in the temptation of some hot guy around the corner....i mean it must be a blow for you, knowing you could do so much better and having sex and waking up with someone you dont fancy 100%.....because you did say you have dated a fit/hot/gorgeous/etc guy before which means you are likely to be pretty to some degree yourself and be able to get the hot guys. i dont mean to be nasty, but when you go out town dont you ever like see extremely hot guys around and think 'god i could do so much better'? after those visions and thoughts it must so pleasing knowing youll head back home to an average looking man.

If you read the post "Going Crazy", I wasn't just going crazy over nothing. I was going crazy because I do like him - a lot. I wasn't sure I would like him at first just because everyone I used to date used to turn out to be the bad boy but they would come across as really nice at first and I assumed that this guy would turn out to be the same but he hasn't. I wouldn't say I'm "hot" but I am cute to a degree, I like to think. And when I go out on the town I'm usually too wrapped up in my girlfriends conversation to notice the guy down at the corner trying to get my attention. And yes I do look. I have a boyfriend. I didn't suddenly go blind. But at the end of the night when I crawl into bed my last thoughts are of him and how I can't wait to see him and hear how his day has gone. Average looking is fine to me when the rest of him takes my breath away.

In reply to:fair enough on your partner you're with.....but i wonder how long it'll take before you give in the temptation of some hot guy around the corner.... WTF! Ok, you know what i think, its that your shallow just as much as the 'bitches' you moan about, or you wouldn't think the way you do.Yeah so what your not drop dead gorgeous, but hey if your a nice guy women will be interested- unlike men women are able to look past the exterior and like the person inside, men, or should i say young men, just don't seem to be able.question: If you were with someone you loved and cared about, and she wasn't exactly a beauty queen, would you give into temptation if a hot woman came on to you? If the answer is yes then your a waste of time! I have dated some hot guys in the past, but you know what, give me my fiance anytime, he might not be what people would class as a hot guy- but I would have him over the others anyday.

woo hoo!!! Amen!

Back off! Everyone else may tolerate your crap so you probably automatically think I will but I'm not going to. I put up with far too much througout the day to put up with you. You're not even worth the space you take up here so why are you wasting my time even responding to something that was clearly meant for someone other than you?

Anyways....

Dude, don't even pay attention to Unforgetto. He's *special*. And also obviously has his own insecurities. You don't need to go off and get p.s. I'm sure you're fine the way you are.

And besides *forgettable*, he's already said he doesn't want plastic surgery. Get a grip.

theres a user on these boards called Amy and shes a right minger-hater. if anyone knows her shes damn ignorant, up herself, and plain nasty. she has made it clear for me though PM. stay clear of that bitch unless you're hot.

In reply to: Amen to what? She doesn't know wtf she's talking about. She's saying women will be interested because he's a nice guy, but they are obviously not. ok so you might act like a girl hon, but i don't actually think you are one so how the fuck would you know what women think. All the women on here have said the same thing, that they would rather be with someone who is nice - good looking or not - than a good looking prick, boring bastard.......and i actually said that its his attitude that is putting women off, this feeling sorry for myself, im not worthy crap - NOT - the way he looks! but of course your right and the women are all wrong as to how women think.......noted

there is a good woman for you out there somewhere, and you're going to meet her, you need to not base what your sex life could be off people you see at clubs..NO girls go to clubs by themselves..and when girls are with their friends they are pursuaded..if one friend doesnt like a guy..none of them do..if one says "hey should i go talk to him" and the otheres dont want her to..then she wont go..thats how us girls are..you need to go somewhere where girls aren't going to be hanging out with their friends...another thing..how you view yourself..like whoever it was said above..go get a new outfit..a hot outfit on an ugly guy can lower his ugliness..get a hair cut..and get some hairgel (the stuff works wonders for even the ugliest guys)..be confident..not stuck up..but be proud of who you are..no confidence is a major turn off and us girls can sense it before we even meet someone..your chances go way down if she suspects you lack self confidence..dont set your standards too high..in reality you probably will never get that really sexy girl youve been staring at..but there are plenty of normal average women who would go for you..go somewhere and meet people..not just one..but LOTS of people. charm them with your personality..be nice and use humor..once you get a girl laughing she'll start being more into you..develop a relationship with someone..and there ya go..you'll have sex..good luck

Oh I am so sorry Unforgetto! Let me bow down at your feet and worship the ground you walk on because I am so intellectually inferior to your arrogant windbag pompus ass! Oh my...you're making me cry! You're really hurting my feelings!! Stop it or I'm telling! ::rolls eyes::I'm a hoe. I'm stupid. I'm a stupid bitch at that. You talk a lot of trash for someone who never says anything worth hearing. You're THE ONLY ONE who is actually WORTH IGNORING!I wasn't trying to make a joke goofball. If I was I would've told a cheesy knock knock joke.I don't have to act smarter than you. I just am smarter than you. That's all there is to it. Anyone can be smarter than someone who is probbably less than 20 years of age and who's vocabulary mainly consists of bitch, cunt, hoe, asshole, whore, fuck, shit and any other curse words that you like to use to make yourself feel important. But you really only sound like a very ignorant and insecure person. You're probably some loser who sits around at a computer and tries to pick fights with people just to try and get a rise out of them.In any case, I'm not responding to you anymore. I don't have time to sit here and listen to someone who only likes to hear himself talk.

Minger - Regardless of what some have said, I honestly don't think you should get plastic surgery. Check your pm's by the way.