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You are so damned clueless, it's not even worth responding.

Though Damien is probably right in not responding, but I guess I am foolish enough to.Welfare isn't exactly foolish. I work in a medical office that sees plenty of Medicaid patients. Trust me I see a lot of people that piss me off. Like the people that are on Medicaid but are all decked out in Tommy gear, or Express clothing etc etc. I can't even afford that stuff, and I am supporting them? Sure pisses me off sometimes. What also upsets me are ladies who continue to get pregnant and than can continue staying on the program. We had a lady yesterday, who already has 8 children, and pregnant with her ninth and she's only 28 years old, and most of the kids have a different father. You’d think by now she’d know how to use protection.But though these things upset me and makes me think the system is screwed up, I than see the mentally challenged patients and the elderly. They truly need the program to survive. I have also seen younger parents who ARE trying to make ends meet properly but still need some help, again the system is needed. So, are there people that abuse the system? Oh yeah trust me there are. But there are more people who are using the system properly and using it to help better their loves by going to school or getting the stability they need to stabilize their lives. As with every system there are positive and negatives, but there are more positives in this case.

Well said, friend.I would add that there are many women who are stuck in the welfare system that don't want to be there. The system, as it is, often makes it harder for women to get jobs and be able to support their families.

Oh my god.That is awfulI hope she is procecuted,I mean seriously, have a heart.Even bylaw, through a prank (or even what they think is a prank)they are still required to send a patrol car to investigate, and make sure everything is okay.It's stuff like that, that makes me question society and all of our morals.

wow that's horrible, there was also a guy trapped in a car trunk and called 911 with his cell and they didn't believe him.

If you had 8 kids and you're 25 or whatever, the government shouldn't have to pay for your mistake. If you can't feed them then social services should just take them and put them up for adoption, and the mother should have to work for the state to pay the costs of taking care of the kids until they're placed in homes. That'll teach those hood sluts who have great grandchildren at age 33 to keep their legs shut.And only veterans and genuinely disabled people should get any form of compensation, the majority are just lazy or never got an education or made any attempt to suceed at life and work a real job. I think underage pregnancy should be a criminal offense too.And they get that Tommy Gear at TJ Maxx and other discount stores where you can get it for like 75% off.

If you can't feed them then social services should just take them and put them up for adoptionWhat are we Russia? We can't just go into homes and takes children away from their parents unless they are in a hostile environment. If we did that could you imagine how even more horrible the adoption agencies and such would be? Talk about being over crowded, more than they already are. Most of these parents love their children whole hearted, just never had the proper education to move ahead in life. Can’t blame the children for that and make them suffer for it.>and the mother should have to work for the state to pay the costs of taking care of the kids until they're placed in homes.Ummm again not going to happen. If they are going to do that much work than they should just be able to keep their children. Also most of these people have to have some type of job while on public assistance (though there are exceptions), so they are paying into the program that’s helping them.>That'll teach those hood sluts who have great grandchildren at age 33 to keep their legs shut.You do realize that not all women on public assistance have like 8 children, right? Most are young girls who have just one child. Most of the time the child was an accident and they were not financially ready, so they are doing the RIGHT thing by getting public assistance so the child gets the food, clothing, and shelter it needs. Accidents happen, but the child should not suffer because of it.>the majority are just lazy or never got an education or made any attempt to suceed at life and work a real job.That is VERY false and very ignorant of you to say. Please read up on the program before you make remarks like that. Most people on it are young, and need the assistance for the child/children. Most of the young people who are one the program that come to my office are actually in school so they can better their lives so they can get off public assistance.A personal story to go along with this is my mother. After my mother and father got a divorce, she had to go on public assistance because she could not afford all the children even with child support from my father. While on public assistance she got an accounting degree and now makes awesome money. THAT is what the program is for, to help better lives.>I think underage pregnancy should be a criminal offense tooYou need to go live in one of these third world countries or something lol. Your ideology is pretty... well messed up. Accidents happen, get over it. You yourself almost got a girl pregnant, and yet you are going to say it needs to be a criminal offense.As for the clothing, trust me when I say there are some people paying straight out full price. We have people on Medicaid that get gold teeth all the time, that's $575 for the crown and than $225 for the gold. They bring the $800 cash like it's nothing. So yes there are people use abuse the system, but that happens with all programs and I still stand by the program has a good function and is needed.One big thing I would change about the system is the BF shouldn't be covered because he got her pregnant. I can understand if they were married, but not other circumstances. Now THAT is a waste of my money that I am putting into the program. It’s like rewarding the guy free health insurance for knocking someone up.

Its the community forum.. it happens. A lot of posts get hijacked here because other thoughts and ideas come into play. It's better here than in the other forums.Also, White_lines is uneducated about the program so i felt it was worth exploring end explaining to him.

My parents were on "public assistance" when I was a teenager. They both worked at the same plant and they went on strike for several months. My dad got paid $40 a week to walk the picket line and Mom got the same to sit at the union office (although neither of them liked the union). That was hardly enough money for a family with 3 teenagers and a 2 year old. So they got food stamps. I still remember going to one of those box lots grocery stores to get groceries and my dad feeling so humiliated and thinking he had to explain to the clerk why he was using food stamps. Damn, I'm getting a frikkin lump in my throat thinking about it. This experience taught me four things:1. My dad is an AMAZING man who does what he has to for his family.2. Unions suck.3. Public assistance programs are valuable when used honestly.4. No one can safely say they will never be on public assistance. (Particularly someone who has a fascination with death and rams his car into another car at 80mph and ends up comatose with no insurance.)

Just a thing about the union.. my dad is in the union and is the reason he still has his job.. so no i don't think the union sucks but obviously there are people who abuse it by not working hard or being lazy but can only get depromoted and not fired unless they do something really bad.

And I can tell you that when my folks were on strike they were afraid to cross the pickett line and work (which they really wanted to do) cause they knew that doing so would not only put themselves in danger, but put their kids' lives in danger as well.I also know that my uncle, who did cross a picket line to work, incurred the wrath of the union to the point that they actually came and fired rounds into his trailer, missing the head of my sleeping cousin by mere inches.Unions once had a place. I don't believe they do anymore.But I respect what you're saying nonetheless. Different experiences create different perceptions I suppose.

I know nothing about welfare because I never had to steal from the government and hard working Americans. All I know is that ANYTHING that TAKES MY FUCKING HARD EARNED MONEY to pay for other people is bullshit. Welfare= Wrong because every paycheck I see TAXES DEDUCTED TO PAY FOR POOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ONLY POOR BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN BAD DECISIONS!Society should say "fuck you, you're SOL, should've never spread your legs for that boyfriend who said he'd love you forever."Why should I have to pay to support OTHER PEOPLES FAMILIES who fucked up their own lives, I didn't put them in the ghetto, they did it to themselves.I'm a liberal but when it comes to involuntarily having to keep other people fed, clothed, and basicly give them a free fucking ticket I say FUCK THAT.Meanwhile, I can't get laid, but I have money stolen from me to support the teenage whore who did. I should just start dealing drugs and quit my job so I don't have to pay taxes to feed this shit of society. Don't even get me started on the social security stolen from me that I won't see a fucking dime of when I retire.

So basically you're just jealous cause she got laid and you didn't.

Listen, I could have all the bitches in the world surrounding me right now and I STILL would not want a single penny of mine to be in the pocket of some slut whore to feed her bastard child.

Ya know, I still can't figure out why you're a virgin. I just don't understand it!!

uhh, im not, i just cant get anyonly fat girls lust after mei hate it

Again you make me laugh because you miss the big picture.>Welfare= Wrong because every paycheck I see TAXES DEDUCTED TO PAY FOR POOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ONLY POOR BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN BAD DECISIONS!Hmm... Ever heard the phrase "Shit Happens"? Well guess what it does. It might seem unfair to you that your money goes to families that are going through a rough time, but an innocent child who did not ask to be brought into the world should suffer? I think not.And are you saying my mother was a bad parent because she needed to go on public assistance for a time? So it was a bad decision she left my father? So my mother should have continued to get beat because my father was an alcoholic? She should have continued to be threatened with a gun to her head every time he got drunk? Sorry but I thank god every day that my mother had the right mind to leave him and keep her children safe. And because of my mother leaving him my father got help for his alcoholism, and is a better man now because of it.You should really know what you are talking about before trying to give your opinion that just makes you look uneducated.>Why should I have to pay to support OTHER PEOPLES FAMILIES who fucked up their own lives, I didn't put them in the ghetto, they did it to themselves.Not everyone who is on or has been on public assistance lives in the ghetto. That’s such a closed minded statement.>Meanwhile, I can't get laid, but I have money stolen from me to support the teenage whore who didAnd you not being able to get laid has to do with this discussion how? How about looking at yourself and lay blame on yourself on things instead of blaming everyone else for YOUR faults.

In reply to:Hmm... Ever heard the phrase "Shit Happens"? Well guess what it does. It might seem unfair to you that your money goes to families that are going through a rough time, but an innocent child who did not ask to be brought into the world should suffer? I think not.Well, I didn't create that child. It's not my fault or my business. If I wanted to give charity, I would, but why should I be forced to? In the wild, if there's no food then the animals die, too bad, no one goes and gives them a free ride to life. Welfare is artificial survival, we should follow the example of life in the wild, no food, then you die, too bad. It's survival of the fittest. If they can't afford food, heat, shelter, etc, they are lacking a survival skill and aren't adaptable to their environment. If a deer can't find food to forage for, no fucking magical bird comes and gives them moss or whatever they eat, the deer slowly starves, weakens, and dies somewhere. 6+ Billion people in this world, more everyday, most of them can't feed themselves and eventually if we keep wasting our time with them neither will we and this whole shit planet will die off. In reply to:And are you saying my mother was a bad parent because she needed to go on public assistance for a time? So it was a bad decision she left my father? So my mother should have continued to get beat because my father was an alcoholic? She should have continued to be threatened with a gun to her head every time he got drunk? Sorry but I thank god every day that my mother had the right mind to leave him and keep her children safe. And because of my mother leaving him my father got help for his alcoholism, and is a better man now because of it.Your mother shouldn't have married an alcoholic. Again, why force me to pay for other people's bad decisions? They won't even learn if someone else always bails them out.In reply to:Not everyone who is on or has been on public assistance lives in the ghetto. That’s such a closed minded statement.Shitty housing, whatever. I know what a welfare house looks like, they're not always in the ghetto but they're usually in shitty areas. Normally trailers or those crappy houses built circa 1915 with peeling paint.In reply to:And you not being able to get laid has to do with this discussion how? How about looking at yourself and lay blame on yourself on things instead of blaming everyone else for YOUR faults.Well you see I can't get any ass, except from fat girls who I don't want anyways. But I'm paying to correct the mistakes of people who have sex. Why? I could be spending the money on a hooker and getting sex with it.That is why i have decided not to pay taxed anymore. I'm going to get a job that enables me to recieve all my money under the table without having to give away any signs that I'm running a business and making profit. Fuck the IRS, they sent me a fucking letter this year saying I owe $1,500 because my dumbass former employers didn't deduct federal tax from my pay. I'm not going to pay it, they can fuck themselves in their asses. I'll leave the country before this corrupt government ever sees a cent of my money.

Or, don't leave the country. Don't pay them either. They will send you to prison and if you play nice, you'll get laid every day!

Welfare is artificial survival, we should follow the example of life in the wild, no food, then you die, too bad. As humans, we have something called compassion, something you need a class on. We are here to help support and aid those who are in need, not sit back and watch people die.>Your mother shouldn't have married an alcoholic. Again, why force me to pay for other people's bad decisions? They won't even learn if someone else always bails them out.See this is where your “know it all attitude” will be put into place. My father was not an alcoholic all his life, and he wasn’t when he married my mother. For the first several years they were married he never drank. It wasn’t until he started bartending for extra money and let himself drink to numb all the stress in his life. THAT’S when the alcoholism set in. That’s when the abuse started. My mother had no choice but to leave my father and takes us kids with her until my father got the help he needed, which thank god didn’t take long for him to understand what he did wrong. So again know your damned facts before you try and judge other people.If it wasn’t for public assistance “bailing” my mother out I am not sure what she would have done. It gave her the skills to build herself up and get a degree to support the family without the need of public assistance. I don’t look down on my mother for going on public assistance back than, hell I think she was a pretty courage person to do what she had to do to take care of her children.>I could be spending the money on a hooker and getting sex with it.Yup and getting an STD. You are so child like mentally I swear it. If you think sex is THAT important, than it really shows your immaturity. Sex might be fun and feel great, but it’s not the most important thing or something to stress over either.>I'm going to get a job that enables me to recieve all my money under the table without having to give away any signs that I'm running a business and making profit.TRUST me, they’ll find you… they ALWAYS do. Freaking be a normal human being and pay your taxes and stop trying to be some deviant little kid. There is a point in life where you GROW UP. Stop blaming everyone else for your problems and take responsibility for yourself. Until you can do that, no one will take you serious.>I'm not going to pay it, they can fuck themselves in their asses.Yup and you’ll be going to jail and you’ll be the one getting “fucked in the ass”, pick your poison. But hey than you can’t complain you aren’t getting enough sex!