Sex before marriage?

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Some say he was.

No, I honestly don't think he would have

Hmm Back off holiday so i can now reply to your post.I am not agreeing with breaking the conditions of God's love but i was stating what i was taught at my church and that is that God sent his son to die for all of my sins that includes the ones that i have and will commit.God understands that we are human he realizes that no-one is sin free !I'm really not sure what to say to the rest of what you have said i feel you slightly twisted the moral of the point i was trying to make with the remark about Christians killing others. I was trying more so to make the point that God's Love is unconditional more than that we should all go around breaking the Bible's word and " killing " one another.With Regards to sin and consciously sinning: I committed a sin and of course i knew it was wrong and of course i knew it was a sin but its not like i did it to "break" the conditions of gods love i did it because at that time i did what i thought was right (.... it wasn't i learnt that much later on and i asked for god's forgiveness and even with his forgiveness i still regret it till this day) ** not really sure if u will understand the point i'm trying to make but I'm really struggling to explain in understandable English what i mean **

That seems perfectly good theology to me.

I think that you explained just fine. I only wish that I had the command of another language the way you do of english and that others had the sense that you appear to have.

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How many times do you have to be saved?

Some people believe quite simply that once you have been saved you are safe.. your going to heaven no matter what.

Others believe that even once your saved you can still fall away from god and fall off the path.

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believe only once because Christ only had to 'die' once and you only have to accept Him once.

Think of it like this. You are saved. You do something sinful. You are forgiven again. You mess up again. You are forgiven again.

each time your forgiven your essentially be saved again.

I'm not trying to start a religious war or anything. I am just explaining my views.

Wow! Didn't realise I was starting a whole theological debate! Although, it's all quite interesting because I'm going to a conference on 'grace' later in the year and some of what's been said about forgiveness and being saved is quite interesting.Thanks everyone and God bless for all your input.

i was saved when i was about 11 durring bible school week. (aka asked Jesus in my heart) and baptised. i've sinned oh a hell of alot! lol i've heard the only way to be unsaved is to denie him. but i dk. so i guess to answer that >"How many times do you have to be saved?"> it would be once. i've seen people come up and rededucate thier lives and be resaved or renewed or wutever and baptised again(really i don't pay much attention..(i'm just thinking YAY church is almost over. wtf is mom going to cook for lunch..lol) but yea i dk. i guess it's all in wut some one belives.

Well its as I said. These are my beliefs and my views. I can't say I disagree that all it takes is to be saved once. However I guess then I would have to say its more of a "process" then simply saying "ok jesus. I accept you".Maybe I should start a religious forum xD. So you can look at it either way really. You have to be saved once which is one huge process. Or you are saved multiple times. Either way.However, I really just don't buy the one step "ok I accept god" end of story side of it. I can't emphasize enough these are simply my beliefs. I am not going to force them on anyone else. You can take em or leave em. Or ask me about them xD.

I didnt read all of the posts, because well quite frankly its a lot, but yeah as i see it, your sins can ALWAYS be forgiven, so live life as it comes to you, life is to fucking short to mess around and not enjoy it, live your life, live it with no regrets, because at one point in your life, thats all you ever wanted you loved her and you thought she was the most amazing person in your life and she was the one that made you happy, if you do breakup with her, just dont regret it, know that she made you happy, never regret something that made you the happiest person in the world, and i guess thats all i have to say....

I agree, my opinion on sex before marriage is to have it someone you love. Even if later on down the road your not with that person.

Well, since this turned into a theological debate... i belive most of the "rules" in the bible to prevent stupid stuff from happening back in the day, EX/ having sex while not married = illegitamate child=bad. for me, sex is a personal choice, my girlfriend(5months) is deadset on not having sex till the priest says "man and wife" i respect people like that with massive faith. But i think looking down on people for not following this rule is dumb.

I agree, but they started it. wow that sounds immature, forgive the theology.

Originally Posted By: HelmsmaNWe tend to not do theological debates. It usually gets kind of ugly and someone or some group of people gets their feelings hurt. Sometimes I wish that could be a forum rule...but alas, we learn to live with things the way they are.