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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410150&in_page_id=1770This is really stupid. I can't believe the school actually had that poor girl arrested! To think something like that could be seen as racism at all is just plain screwed up...its a matter of common sense.

It would be worth noting that this country (UK) is becoming slowly more and more farked up thanks to His Tonyness.We need a PM who actually stands for something rather than sitting on the fence about every bloody issue.A PM who will just says, "enough is enough" and sorts all the complete bullshit out. I have nothing against Muslims but when I hear a bunch of Muslims threatening an injured soldierHurt soldier And a house damagedSoldiers house ruined (granted its the Scum)really makes my blood boil!!! Within living memory Britain was a superpower that took centuries to build. And thanks for politicians like Blair we're farked!Don't get me started on this subject unless you want a MAJOR rant on your hands.Mr. Nuts

What exactly is your point?The Sun article, while pointing out a nasty crime that should be solved, with the perpetrators getting tossed in jail, was an nasty piece of racist trash. Is the equation Muslim equals thug?The solution is not to take on the worst characteristics of your enemy, and become them.

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And its what I think too. I also think Blair should grow a spine and start singing the same tune. Good on the Aussies. If you want to swap PM's I am sure we can come to some arrangement.
If people want to come to my country for a better life they better be prepared to accept our values and possible give up some of theirs.
Don't give me any human rights bollocks now. At the end of the day they are integrating into our country and therefore, since they are guests in our country, they should be the ones who adapt, not us.
I am not saying as you so articulately put it "Muslim = thug" however for the small population they have they are definitely making the most trouble. Its not all of them, it would be highly unkind and unfair for me to say that. But some of them are right C\#%ts.
I have no problem with religion. On the whole it is a good thing, moral guidelines, hope, devotion, kindness etc. But being pretty much an atheist I hate people who impose their beliefs on others. And I despise people who can't accept what other people believe.
There are some nasty people out their, and I am not comforted in the knowledge that some of them are probably on benefits paid for by my taxes.
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But sometimes you have to risk the dark in order to gain the light.
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The original post is about a girl getting into trouble with the police for allegedly not wanting to work with a group of students who could not speak English. If that in fact is what happened, it's absurd.Were the non-English-speaking students preaching terrorism or hatred? I think not.It appears that you chose to take this opportunity to vent your resentment about Muslims in your country.How are they imposing their beliefs on you? Have you been forced to go to the Mosque? I'm not sure how it is that we have so many Muslims in the U.S. (especially in the Detroit area), but so little tension. For whatever reason, it's not easy for foreigners to integrate into Western European societies. It's an issue not unique to Muslims.If it's illegal to preach hatred, violence, and terrorism in your country, then your government should crack down on it. Don't they?

I was using the opportunity to explain how farked up and backward this country is getting. It is all down to useless politicians.

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The original post is about a girl getting into trouble with the police for allegedly not wanting to work with a group of students who could not speak English. If that in fact is what happened, it's absurd.

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This is evidence of what is happening.
How is that right to get in trouble with the police for something like that. It's pathetic. Alright, maybe it's a little rude and unsociable but not a crime.

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Were the non-English-speaking students preaching terrorism or hatred? I think not.

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Of course they bloody wasn't! And I never suggested that. IF I did please point it out to me. If not, I have no idea how you got that connection.

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It appears that you chose to take this opportunity to vent your resentment about Muslims in your country.

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I have no problem with Muslims, only the select few that harm others for fark all reasons and fark all results.

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How are they imposing their beliefs on you? Have you been forced to go to the Mosque?

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I hate PC (politically correct) everything. Call a spade a spade. In the attempt to not offend absolutely bloody everyone saying something very minor can have pretty server consequences.
Couple of examples:
BA Crucifix
There was another one, can't find the link, where a boy in the playground (aged 10) called someone a "paki" or something. Yeah, not nice, but it didn't need to go to bloody court. Surely a word with the child and a slap on the wrist would do it.

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If it's illegal to preach hatred, violence, and terrorism in your country, then your government should crack down on it. Don't they?

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No, some terrorist was wandering around preaching terrorism and he was on full benefits and was given a car and house. WTF.
Goes back to the PC thing. You have freedom of speech so they don't do anything about it and at the same time crack down on people like this schoolgirl.
It's ridiculous.
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> Of course they bloody wasn't! And I never suggested that. IF I did please point it out to me. If not, I have no idea how you got that connection.

Because you posted about the problem about out-of-control Muslims in this thread; it has nothing to do with the subject of the thread. This thread is about a girl who was apparently arrested for not wanting to work with a group of students who couldn't speak English, and for whatever she said afterward.

That the students were Muslim, if they were, has nothing to do with the situation, as you concede. Apparently this was just a convenient place to unload about your feelings toward Muslims. Maybe you should start a separate thread on the subject about Muslim intolerance in your country. Maybe we can help your British Moslem be more like our nice American Moslems.

Forcing people to remove religious symbols from their body (as British Airways seems to do to their employees, and as France seems to do with their Muslim public school students) is ridiculous. Maybe you guys need something like our first amendment.

I had no intention of turning this thread into a rant about the state of the UK. I only wanted to hear peoples thoughts on what happened with the schoolgirl. If you would like to talk about the UK, please, start your own thread on it.

that's so dumb. I remember in my school my best friend got in trouble for calling one of her friends joking the n word but with an a at the end and she got dention for 3 days. but yet when the substitute teacher calls me a mutt she's only being scientifical... HYPOCRITE!

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but yet when the substitute teacher calls me a mutt she's only being scientifical

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omg....like, during class??? thats horrible. i never experienced anything like that at any of the schools I have gone to. I'm sure the teachers there would have been in a hell of alot of trouble for saying anything like that.

yeah during class. she was discussing diverse culturals and stuff and I did a research paper before on the country of Ethiopia and she said something really stupid about their advancement in technology and I POLITELY told her that it was something else since I'm not a mean person and she goes "I wouldn't expect a mutt like you to understand" I was like I know this dumb ogre did not just call me a mutt. I was getting ready to pounce on her and rip out those extensions. I'm still pissed off lol. it happened last year though

I can't believe your school hasn't fired her for that kind of behavior...thats awful. that kinda stuff just doesn't happen around where I live....not that i am aware of anyway.

people are nastily rude. she looked a hot mess anyway lol. but whatever it's fine. my school is weird. my principal has been to jail over 3 times for child abuse. he's cool though... in a.... OJ Simpson cool movies but beats his wife kind of way... lol. full blooded italian and kind of young like... in his late 20s. I don't take racists people serious anymore because some of the things they say just are pointless. like my substitute teacher. I don't even think she knew what a mutt was. Just because I looked differently or something? she needs to be slapped... with a fish. lol

How are people who cant speak english even alowed to go to an english speaking school? Thats ridiculess they were there to start with. If theyre not willing to speak the countrys language they can go back to where they came from and bloody stay there. I remember when I was moving out to the USA and there were aspects of how I talked I had to change, also how I acted, but thats what you do when youre in somone else's country. Its just respectful.This kind of stuff angers me greatly, like when I call up my bank I sit there and pray I dont get the pakistani. Why? Not because I am rasist but because I cant understand them, I spend the whole time asking "pardon?" "could you repeat that please?". So no wonder she didnt want to work with them, shes probrably not racist in the slightest its just damn anoying and frustrating not being able to understand somone.Another thing, if kids are being nasty in school and they call somone fat or big nose or whatever thats just classed as bullying. They call somone a nigger or a paki and theyre in troubble with the police. I mean everyone knows how kids are, they say mean stuff. Calling somone a fat shit and calling somone a paki are on the same degree of abuseivness, infact making fun of somone for obicity or disfigurement is far worse than their race. Even now I know people who are still paranoid about the childhood abuse they recieved, "Oh no im so fat" but you dont see people who were made fun of with racist comments walking around going "oh no im so fucking black". The fact that calling somone a nigger or other offensive racial names comes under "racism" and not just "verbal abuse" is ridiculess for a start. Whats the differance in calling somone a pakki or mocking somone because theyre overweight or have some kind of disfigurement? Theyre both just verbaly abusive comments throwen to anger or upset the person recieving them.The whole political correctness issue is complete and utter bullshit, its taking away peoples free speech and is wrong. I know its not right to say somthing racist but at the end of the day its taking away freedom of speech that people died for us to have.

The first thing to understand is that freedom of speech does not exist for students in public schools. You can't get away with wearing a shirt that says "screw the teacher" or "kill the mud people" in school, even if you can on the street (at least in the U.S.).Secondly, I don't know how to separate out the effects of being called a nigger versus the general racism that blacks encounter in the U.S., but I assure you that it's at least as bad as being called fat. It causes grevious damage to a child.Third, why do you think that the students enrolled in the school in question are not interested in learning English? Why then would they be in an English-speaking school? Kids learn quickly. I'll bet all those kids will be pretty fluent in English in a couple of months or so. Did it make sense to send the girl into a group where only one student spoke English (or was confident enough in their English to speak it)? Maybe not. Do we know the whole story of what happened? I doubt it.Political correctness, political correctness. I usually hear the term used when people want to justify their rudeness. In this country, you have a right to say that you don't like this or you don't like that. Other people have the right to say that they don't like what you're saying. Life goes on.

if the person has a condition with obesity then yes the offender should be slapped. HOWEVER, if it's not so then you can get rid of your obesity or fatness over a certain amount of time with a little thing we call excercise. You can get rid of fat. You can't stop being black or pakistanian! jeez... as some people like to call it it's a condition. and dang no need to throw words around like that sheesh...

You're wrong about how easy it is for everone who is obese to lose weight. In any case, it doesn't justify making fun of people.It's sad that obesity is the last accpetable object of bigotry (gay bashing seems to still be accepted in some circles, apparently, including some Evangelical ones).

yes I know it's hard to get rid of obesity. but I don't find much people hating others that are fat they just think they are better than them. I know for a fact that there are people who hate and have issues with fat people which is wack. they need to get over it. but there's still a difference. when you're hated (emphasis on hated) because of your race there's just something about it that makes you feel...ugh. Before I learned to take it with a punch I used to cry whenever I was insulted with racial slurs because I felt vulnerable knowing there was nothing I could do about it. But yeah I understand anyway. People are wack. I'm going to stop talking before I say something... Abilike.

How are people who cant speak english even alowed to go to an english speaking school? I'm assuming they were exchange students.

In reply to: if the person has a condition with obesity then yes the offender should be slapped honey, with that statement, how are people to know if its a condition? the person may not even know themselves, and otherwise itd depend on the person, if they were overweight but it wasnt killing them and they were happy who cares? if its to the point theyre moving a mile a day and having whatever problems obese people do than sure they probably need to lose the weight unless they feel like dying-OP, yes that is truckloads of grade A bullshit,she speaks english, they dont the teacher shouldnt have put her there, she sounds a little inept