Guys jerking off other guys? thought about it?

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There are lots of men who are married (or have a similar relationship) to women who have sex "on the down low" with men. It's hard to nail down what their sexual orientation is.

Why does there have to be a sexual orientation? As I've said for some men, sex is sex.. nothing more, no emotional connection. They just don't connect emotion with sex. There are guys like myself on the otehr hand that have to have an emotional connection to even have sex. I could never have a one night stand because there's no emotional connection with the person.

Why does there have to be a sexual orientation?Exactly. It's an obession without a pupose.

It's an obession without a pupose. Sure there is a purpose, to get off..sexual gradification. =-D

So you are saying if you are sexually attracted to the same sex, that doesnt make you gay? wtf?I completely disagree. If you are a guy and you want to wank another guy while he wanks you, that IS SEXUAL ATTRACTION. That is a homosexual act. I dont care if you are emotionally attatched to the person or not.

lol i'm with gay guys...(but im not gay but i might be bi)..

That may be true, but the question is, how much does it matter?When people ask, "I did X, am I gay?", they're really asking, "Am I a freak?", since being gay, especially among adolescents ("You're a fag!"), is frowned upon. If homosexuality were as accepted as heterosexuality, people wouldnt be so concerned. Things are heading in that direction.At the end of the day, you're attracted to who you're attracted to, and there's no point worrying about it. Homosexuality is not a disease.

Agreed. I have nothing against gays or bi-sexuals. So to the creator of this thread, if thats who you are then dont worry about it.

Point is for some men sex is just sex. They don't care where or who they get it from.My friend Jason that I desribed above is not sexually attractive to females but (not to be graphic) it's a hole to put his penis in and get off. Does that make him not gay? It can be twisted this way and that way in every direction possible.Point blank (I feel like a broken record) sex is just sex for some people. I have studied this and sexual attraction until I was blue in the face (Scowls at Dr.Jones). Sexual attraction does not make up sexual orientation. Sexual orientation can only be classed when one adds emotional needs.

I really gets tiring to keep repeating it, but sexual orientation, sexual attraction and gender identification are all things that vary from people to people and are almost never just black or white. Ever heard of shades of gray? Just because you've never had doubt about those things for you, doesn't mean that other people won't, or that they'll be as clean cut are you. Personally, I'm straight, so I'm not talking out of personal interest, but failing any real definition, I'll define sexual orientation both by sexual *and* emotional attraction.

In reply to: Ever heard of shades of gray? The grey area is indeed pretty large. If you look at the Kinsey study (I think the main a2a page talks about it...), it's very definate that there's no absolute answer to it.Basically, emotion attraction is much less important than physical attraction in determining sexual orientation. Even more simplified, it's whoever 'gets you up.' Emotional attraction without physical attraction doesn't really work in the long run. Physical attraction without emotional attraction can work however, so that means that sexual orientation is more based in physical attraction rather than emotional attraction.So to apply this to the original post...One act doesn't make you gay... numerous acts don't make you gay, it's whether or not you're attracted to men in general that would make you gay.

That is Gay.

So you'd have to say that a married guy who don't have a good physical relationship with his wife, but who has sex with men on the sly ("down low"), is probably a closeted gay man.

Well that sounds like a joke question right there... But, I just said that given that scenario, if he's not physically attracted to his wife, or any woman, but he is physically attracted to men, then he is most likely gay.It shouldn't be that confusing... I thought I explained it well enough.

It wasn't a joke. Don't take offense. I'm just trying to make it clear.

The word your searching for isTry-sexual: Try anything sexual.Do you have someone in mind or just any guy? There my be the answer.

Hey bud, great answer!

so that means that sexual orientation is more based in physical attraction rather than emotional attraction.Absolutely not true... in general. As Shy said there's always a large grey area. But in GENERAL ones sexual orientation is based on emotional needs over physical needs. Some people can have sex with either gender, it's simply about sexual gradification. But when it comes down to their true sexual orientation it comes from their emotional need and emotional attraction to a certain gender.I'm certainly not trying to be difficult. It's just in college I've studied so much into sexual behaviors and sexual orientation that I about went crazy lol. Though the grey field is always very large and by far is sex in any form a black and white situation. But to talk in general, it usually plays out how I described above.

Sexual orientation is your sexual preference. Key word, "sexual". It doesnt refer to who you click with emotionally.

umm Sexual generally means gender.If you really want to debate this with me feel free.. but I have years of college under my belt with LOADS of courses in sexual orientation, sexual identity, Sex in today's society, and the list continues.Oh and actually if you want to be technical sexual orientation and sexual preference goes hand in hand. I'm simply saying sexual orientation derives from emotions or so that the act of sex itself.