grvtykllr> steve and ntro you are both arguersI totally agree with that. You sound like someone who knows from whence he speaks.longlines8> Steve - you lean toward the black and white. From what I read you definitely feel that many things have a right or wrong and that people will argue their opinion is right or wrong. You have to understand that many folks do not work in that world and just want everyone to agree that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that none of them are right or wrong.True to some extent, but to a great extent misses the point. First of all, an opinion can be wrong. That's just my opinion. There is a wide gamut of issues than one can have an opinionion on, from your favorite color, to what a good treatment is for some ailment, to what makes an electromagnet work.Logic has nothing to say about things that are not falsifiable. You can't deduce (and prove) the existence of God. But there are things for which there is strong and accumulating evidence that points toward an opinion's being correct or not. For instance, some people believe in the efficacy of certain medical treatements that have been shown in numerous well-conducted studies not to be effective. At best, they're a waste of money. At worst, their use can result in delaying seeking effective treatment.I understand that not everything has a scientific answer. But for the things that are in the domain of science, it's primitive and ignorant to dismiss it. Given how the understanding of science and its prinicple is diminishing in the U.S., it's becoming more and more of a battle. Sometimes it feels like the middle ages are creeping back.
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Guys jerking off other guys? thought about it?
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I'm not an arguer, I'm a debater at heart.. yes but not an arguer.You just don't know how to stop. You are a big time arguer.Opinions come in different flavors. Some are falsifiable. I suggest you acqaint yourself with that word.
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Steve, again just stop replying to my posts, I was not directing anything towards you and yet you feel that you had to degrade me again. I have tried to be polite with you and resolve our issues through PM's that we seem to have and you refused. So I see no other way than to just ignore each other. I am tired of the bickering. Tired that I cannot make a post of any sorts without you right behind me trying to correct me or calling me names. It's childish, so please just stop. It's gotten to the point of ridiculousness now.Thanks.
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So you're saying that you havn't looked up the word falsifiable?
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**I feel like banging your heads together (as my old mum used to say) *sigh* **
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Sorry...I just thought it was a pretty good word to express the idea I unsuccessfully tried to convey with long paragraphs. The idea (vis-a-vis science) is: Can an experiment be conceived to demonstrate that a hypothesis is correct or incorrect? If not, then science has nothing to say about it. For instance, the existence of God is not falsifiable; there's no way to prove or disprove God's existence. There are specific ideas in the scriptures that fall within the realm of science and logic, but the existence of God is not among them.The same idea applies to logic in general. You can't argue that someone's favorite color is incorrect (although if someone's favorite color is deli-mustard yellow, you can debate the aesthetics of their taste)._________________Now to the OP's question, is it gay to jerk another guy off? I think not, but I can't prove it. But what does Ridand mean by "is it gay"? If he still prefers intimate companionship with women, I'd say that he's not gay. Maybe a litte bit bi. Pratically everyone is bi to some degree. At the end of it all, why does it matter? If you decide that you're gay, do you have to go out and buy a new wardrobe?
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At the end of it all, why does it matter? If you decide that you're gay, do you have to go out and buy a new wardrobe? I 100% agree with that. I don't think because he wants to jack some guy off makes me gay. That's what I was saying from the beginning and I suppose thats why I was confused at why there was a debate over it. Anyways not rehashing anything just wanted to say I agree.Also Steve, sorry I had the wrong definition for that word.