Have you ever made a girl cry in bed

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Steve pretty much all you say is inherently true.

SteveA I few most everything as such...pointless unless I decide otherwise. Unless I (ME) decide otherwise. I dont need soemone else to tell me what has value as I'm not convinced anything really does. Its up to each of us here to decide for ourselves what matters. I chose nationalism. Why? Dunno really just seemed like a natural choice for me. Does it really matter in the long run? Nahhh but I enjoy it so I do it...kinda going off it since I took up poetry though, I'm not sure why this is really. That all sounds rather cynicle but its truly what I believe. We all find something to do with our emotions as a way of refining them and enjoying them to their fullest. Its all about emotion in my opinion...religeon, politics, art...eveyrhting except cynicism. Which is why I make a point of being cynicle towards nothing and surrounding myself with people with as rediculous idea's as possible as, frankly, their company is far more enjoyable than a cynics.

So theres no real material reason too give a damn about nationalism? Yeah but I'd say the same about everything. Besides if you look pretty much anything you do I think you will see its mostly in the service of our vanity. I believe your need to argue is to serve your vanity (and is frankly one of the few options left for a true cynic, which you may or may not be), as is my nationalistic tendancies...and my need to buy nice clothes that make me stand out, and why I post my poems on the web instead of keeping them for my own personal pleasure alone.

Okay thats basically how I view all life.

Nothing will matter when your dead, you know.

Ancestor worship indeed, which is why I went to the trafalgar celebrations as the Shipley concervative club where we all toasted Nelson with rum...followed by toasting the Royal Navy..and the Queen, and Michael Howard and...well you get the picture. It was fun.

you replied to a post made a while ago everybody else had let it go. To revive pointless argument is childish.As opposed to your presence in this thread, which is pointy and grown-up.> Now if you had been going back to a post that was relevent to th original post then that would be fine. Let me get this straight. You're saying that it's wrong to hijack threads, and post things to them that are not relvant to the original post? Let me think about that for a while. May I quote you in the future?> So, a parent can't feel pride for their child's achievments? Not if they haven't raised said child.

In reply to: Nothing will matter when your dead, you know. Exactly! So why I'm here I will do whatever fuels my emotions.

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Let me get this straight. You're saying that it's wrong to hijack threads, and post things to them that are not relvant to the original post? Let me think about that for a while. May I quote you in the future?

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Yeah what you said, SteveA

Bobalicious leave us to argue at our pleasure.

In reply to: Everybody responds because you insist on trying to prove others wrong. You always try to have the last word, and you usually do because everyone stops caring and eventually stop responding. We all need to satisfy our vanity in one way or another.

C'mon bob we can take em!

Exactly! So why I'm here I will do whatever fuels my emotions. Yeah! Well, that and other things.

Dawn...

pistols or swords?

In reply to: Yeah! Well, that and other things. Evaluate old-boy

I am a grown-up. I am officially 18 therefore I am bestowed with the wisdom of all grown-ups.And I'm not saying that its wrong to hijack, don't try to twist my words. I am saying that when a hijacked thread changes subject and everybody is pleasently discussing the new topic, to return to the original hijacking conversation when others are tired of it is just annoying. Lets take a normal, average parent, raising their child like every other parent in the neighbourhood. They come home one day with a test result of 100%. The parent did not sit with them for hours helping them revise or drilling notes into their head. Are you saying that the parent cannot be proud of their child's achievement, even in a situation when the reason to be proud of them is that they achieved something without the parent's help.

In reply to: I am a grown-up. I am officially 18 therefore I am bestowed with the wisdom all grown-ups. I bow down and worship, your adultyness

Thank you! Now go get me some sweets!

I havnt finished giving you the pedicure yet

Oh, I'm sorry. Please continue.

Hey! Im a grownup too! jumps up and down

Wanna share some of my candy?

That depends, is it grown up candy?

I am a grown-up. I am officially 18 therefore I am bestowed with the wisdom of all grown-ups.That's why people should be turned into dog food when they hit 20.> And I'm not saying that its wrong to hijack, don't try to twist my words.I quoted your words through the cut-and-paste method.> I am saying that when a hijacked thread changes subject and everybody is pleasently discussing the new topic, to return to the original hijacking conversation when others are tired of it is just annoying.Either you're joking, or your a loony. The keyboard discussion was not very entertaining.> The parent did not sit with them for hours helping them revise or drilling notes into their head.Do you think that a child is a completely blank sheet of paper, that's filled when the child studies for a test, and that all the effort the parent put into raising the child don't amount to a hill of beans, with regard to how the child does on the test?> Are you saying that the parent cannot be proud of their child's achievement, even in a situation when the reason to be proud of them is that they achieved something without the parent's help.When you've done well on a test, it was through the help of a lot of forces, including the parents, teachers, the culture, etc. Anyone who had a hand in it should be proud.But if some guy who lives two blocks away, who I don't even know, does well on a test, should I be proud? Should I be proud because he's white like me?