Immigration Reform

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How do you all feel on this subject?

well what is it exactly?

Turn on the NEWS.

i get the just of it i was asking about details

Didnt we have this discussion short while ago?This whole thing pisses me off to much, and them carring signs saying "we are not crimanals"fuck you you are so, it is illegal to enter the US undocumented, by entering with out proper visas and legal status, your illegal, that makes you a criminal.TOday they are taking the day off off work and school to show how important they are to the econemy, that we need illegal immigrants, I think they should shut the fuck up, keep a low key, they are illegal after all, why make that fact more painfully obvious by organizinga day off for illegals ?personally, Utah is full of illegals, and I have seen no difference her and I was in teh capitol this morning,I have a meeting and rally to attend at 3 pm. Mostly just to check out the people who stand against them, see if there is any violence against them, the 2 year old will be at daycare, Ill go it alone, no reason to put him in a situation like that with an possible explosion of violence and hurt buttholes.If they come here legally,i have no problem with immigrants and think they should be afforded every right that is bestowed on them and osme aid to get them started, but to grant aid and protection to crimials that enter illegally and its now been over 4 fuckig months, Im still fighting shit trying to restore my fucking credit and clear shit up because of people selling illegals social security numbers to work under. FUCK EM. COme legally, or stay the fuck out. ther is a process that grants so many people a year access to coming here. I realize that they come here because of shitty ass conditions where they are, I sympathize with that, but why should i now suffer because they came ?fuck with my credit, use thenymbers to gain work and fuck my taxes and Im not currently trying to straighten shit out over people using the number and filing taxes when we had already filed, and earned income that was ot reported on my tax forms becuase I was unaware of it as it was not us working but fuckig illegals working under our numbers.FUck em all, round em up, ship em back where they came from.if thye were not here it would hurt the US econemy ?bullshit.less welfare goig out for people that shouldnt be here to begin with, that more money saved and people like me dont have to suffer thru IRS bullshit to get straight what never should have been fucked and twisted to begin with.I realize that they can be here and can be productive mebers of the society, so if that is the real desire, coe here legally, embrace the rules of the society you wish to fit into and do it right or dont do it at all.

I heard on the news that over yonder in America theres a movement to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants. If people dont show your country the respect fo immigrating into it throughthe legal system, then they cant be expected to show it the respect is deserves as citizens.

Something has to be done, the sooner the better. If its legal, then welcome to the USA, if not send em back. Its only fair. And the president says, "Americans wont take those jobs" I bet people would if they paid a liveable wage.

In reply to: This whole thing pisses me off to much, and them carring signs saying "we are not crimanals"fuck you you are so, it is illegal to enter the US undocumented, by entering with out proper visas and legal status, your illegal, that makes you a criminal. Amen to that. Deport them and then heavily fortify your border so that vigilantes dont have to do the governments job anymore.

thats what i wanted to know, and ya your right

I think they should have the national guard or something checking ID's at all these 'protests' they are having today. And then they should deport every illegal they find.I mean come on. I do not care if you want to move to the US, but you should at least become a citizen when you get here.

its not about being a citizen, its about documentation and being able to live. you can be here and not become a US citizen, its called legal immigrants and they have set rules about how long they can stay and how they have to work and contribute. its what a green card does for you.wich is funny since they are not green anyways.I think though that if this country is good enough to come to and have a better life and take the benifits of being here, then after a couple years you can either sign up permenantly and take teh test, or get the fuck out.Im tired of all the bullshit and why I have to take less pay for working becuae I speak english and not spanish just to help all of them. When I travel to mexico, noone caters to me and clamors to speak english. they do onthe border, not down into mexico though. they still help me out because i have US Dollars not Pesos, but its moeny, not anything else that leads them to english.I have no desire to learn another language and have to speak and read the shit to live in fucking land locked utah just because people care to come here.your going otbe here, speak the fucking language or piss off.the primary language of the US is english, thats all that should be required here, if you start learning a new language, fucking reat grand fine, its shoudl be a choice and not have our fucking state forms for dirvers licences and welfare written in spanish as well as english.and and and and and I need a fucking smoke, this whole thing really does piss me off, I dont think Ill be visiting this thread again.

THANK YOU why the hell should we have to accomodate them

In reply to: the primary language of the US is english, thats all that should be required here, if you start learning a new language, fucking reat grand fine, its shoudl be a choice and not have our fucking state forms for dirvers licences and welfare written in spanish as well as english. I hope you make it an integral part of your constitution that English is the one and only official language of the United States, and no over language is to be granted any kind of official status.

America had no offical language.

I know, thats my point...it should make English the official language.

The offical language of Utah is English, so why do we also have all these fucking forms duplicated into spanish ?
English needs to be the offical language, it needs to be written and signed into law and end all this other bullshit.
I wont say its not good to know more then a single language, but it creates alot of extra costs that could be put elsewhere to have 2 forms jsut becuase people live here and dont learn the language.

Bush wants to open the door to leaching illegal immigrants from Mexico, but yet it could take years for a Canadian to legaly live and work there. Again...DOWN WITH BUSH!!

The Bilingual Act? no?

Think about it, do you really want to fucking be here in the US ?if not then why do you give a shit ?Iv actually looked into moving to Canada. secondly, this was in my email today, because of hte timing I thought Id include it in this thread but sint directed at you Ninja... Dear President Bush,I'm about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family and I would like to ask you to assist me. I'm going to walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this.I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports,immigration quotas and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way we do here.So, would you mind telling President Vicente Fox, that I'm on my wayover? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:1. Free medical care for my entire family.2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I mightneed,whether I use them or not.3. All government forms need to be printed in English.4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers.5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of theflag pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down.7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast andlunch.8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easyaccess to government services.9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won't make anyeffort to learn local traffic laws.10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get thememo from Pres. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that allpolice officers speak English.11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put flag decalson my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do notwant any complaints or negative comments from the locals.12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes,and don't enforce any labor laws or tax laws.13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely niceand never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I mightplace on the economy.I know this is an easy request because we already do all thesethings for all the people who come to the U.S. from Mexico. I amsure that Pres. Fox won't mind returning the favor if you ask himnicely.However, if he gives you any trouble, just invite him to go quailhunting with V.P. Cheney.Thank you so much for your help.Sincerely,A Legal American Taxpayer

Bush's term is done in another 2 years, unless you idiots vote him back?