Loney

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**I have to say steve, i think you were well out of line with your post to sexpot........and is there a reason for complaining about banning etc in lots of different threads?

There is a procedure that needs to be followed concerning board members - if we banned people the minute they stepped out of line, there would be no-one here, mods included, we all step over the line sometimes. New members who sign on, bring back dead threads and annoy people, arn't always doing it to be a nuisance, they just don't get how the board runs, should be ban those after their 6th post too?

I have to agree with people that Mods should be visible on the "who's online" screen, I, like kristal am on invisible but I personally think some of you had a valid point, and will be visible again on the screen, but saying that i still respect Kristals viewpoint, if she wants to be invisible, then no one on the board has a right to dictate what she must do.

Bashing the mods, isn't going to get us anywhere, we as members of the board, ALL, need to work together. If someone gets a PM that disturbs, upsets, angers them, tell one of the mods, even if they only get the one, if someone is being abusive in the threads, PM us and let us know, tho there are a lot of mods on the boards at the moment, there may be still times when a mod isn't here at the exact time........or might have missed a thread. Don't sit back expecting us to be able to read minds, and then moan about it, tell one of us, and we WILL sort things out.

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The thread in question was not handled well. There has to be a way to temporarily stop someone who's having a nutty short of banning them permanently.There were problems with some other recent threads as well. Being quiet about it is not going to make everything all good. I understand that you're working at the pleasure of the site owner, and he gets to make the rules, but that often results in clear and obvious abuse going on and on and on.The mod in question has clearly demonstrated that she doesn't have the temperament for this job. It's not that she's not smart and capable in a lot of ways. Just not for this job..Edit: One thing I like about the current complement of mods is that every thread no longer turns into an explicit flirting festival. This is a big improvement.

I agree totally steve, it wasn't handled well, but we arn't perfect, I would have probably blocked him, mid rant, if i had been online and following the thread, but i wasn't so I can't speak for anyone in what they would or should have done.Being quiet about things, TOTALLY isn't going to help, however, there are more constructive ways of doing things, PMing the mods to let them know there is something going on is a first step, I can say that if I get a PM from anyone with a complaint or a head'sup I will be following it through, tho, i am still trying to find my feet with this mod thing.

It was incomprehensible that the abuse in that thread by one member who seemed to be having a very bad day was allowed to go on so long, when moderators were presentIf you are talking about who I think you are.. I took care of him as soon as I seen what was going on, hence why the posting stopped. We do not need to post and let everyone know what we are doing, who we ban etc etc. As mods and Admins we are doing the best we can for the boards but we cannot be here 24 hours a day.If me being invis is that big of a deal I can "un-invis" myself. I put myself inivisible a long time ago because I was getting stupid PM's from people and it was overly annoying.

Mods (and admins) aren't perfect - just as well, perhaps.There is a way of temporarily stopping people, and that's a temporary ban, which is what has been applied in this case. However, this site has a tradition of free speech and tolerance which its owner jealously guards, and we don't want to ban people, even temporarily, just because we don't like what they are saying. A number of mods engaged the poster in question in PMs, and a ban was applied only when it was clearly the only way to deal with unacceptable behaviour.I believe the situation was handled as well as it could be. People in this thread are complaining that a ban was not applied earlier. Others are complaining that various other people have not been banned that they think should be. The banned poster himself is complaining to the site owner that he should not have been banned. The mods can't please everyone, but I think they are doing an excellent job, and I have confidence in all of them.

The banned poster himself is complaining to the site owner that he should not have been banned. Now that would be an interesting argument.There's a difference between speaking freely and posting random nonsense all over the place as fast as you can, and then accelerating the posting the longer you get away with it. Then there's the issue of an unstable person who has used this site as his dating hunting ground going nuts on someone, in a way that a reasonable person would find scary.I'm all for speaking freely, and the owner of the site can strike the balance as he sees fit; it's his "press". But if the owner of this site has half a brain, he will understand that the moderators have given the person with the grievance every possible consideration, and he should tell the discontented person in question to take a hike.

**Ineligible this is not directed at you. You were just the last person to reply.**Admins and mods have my two cents on our banishment policy. I hope they understand how I feel about it as I believe I raised some good points for us to discuss. Believe it or not most things are discussed between us. Not everything that goes on behind the scenes, however, needs to be discussed in the open eye of this board. I believe the administration is doing it's best and what happened came at a bad time when there is much ill will and contempt for those in power (and even those new to the position) taking into consideration things that have gone on the last month or so - whether the feelings are justifiable or not - no one will ever really know.To the point someone brought up about Mods and Admins being invisible. As a standard veteran member prior to this I stayed invisible. Once I found out I was a moderator I became visible. It's hard for a member to understand or know who to contact if there an immediate problem because they don't know who is around. I'm on a lot at night. On my days off I'm here several times a day through out the day. If I stay invisible they have no way of knowing I am here and instead they may send a message to - let's say Angel for example - when she's not logged on. What needs to be taken care of does not get taken care of like it should. If it is a problem our members feel is worth complaining about then it is something to take into consideration when we as mods and admins discuss why our members do not contact us with information they feel is important.

Well said Stevie.

[Edit: Oops, the post that this post replies to has been deleted. It said, among other things, something about someone's posts not being a good reflection on this site.]Some of the things you have done and said don't reflect very well on this site, Ms. High and Mighty. If being a moderator imbues you with a sense of responsibility that tempers your behavior, so much the better.

Knock it off, Steve. It's unbecomming of you.