Afraid to Faith

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\_You believe in God?
yes? Well, prove that he exists.
Oh you can't? But you just believe?
Do you believe in the Easter Bunny?
No? But you believe in an imaginary God?
Haha, what an idiot.\_
You get what we're talking about now? And this same story occurs again and again and again.

While I love the movie, it has nothing to do with what I said.Brenda is my x wifes name and she is indeed a cunt.The movie is however great, "Fly fat ass ! FLY!"

Yes, I get what your saying, but arguing/debating is a two way street. I have seen people actually say they are going to kick Steve's ass....sounds like a personal attack to me. However I have never seen Steve say anything like that. But yet if he questions the existence of God, or compares God to Santa Claus, everyone thinks he is personally attacking them. I guess I just don't get the whole 'attacking' thing.

Dayum, Son! That's like.. 10~ Burns.That's pretty dope, man.I'm Catholic(Or so they say) and I didn't get offended by these debates. It's just when these apes generalize all Christians. It's cute how he still replies to me. Thank God for the ignore button! It's a life saver.I need to come on more ofter -- I gotta his reply.

how dare anyone compare god to such evil malfeasants as Santa Clause and the easter bunny! where will it end?!Quote:Cunt is a word best used for describing my x wife.what an odd coincidence...

Its not odd, its divorce and hatred. Youll have a hard tme finding a man whos divorced that doesnt think that applies to his x.Do you keep a tampon on your tv to remind you of the cunt that took the VCR? Im betting yuoll also agree that divorce is expensive, and worth every penny.

But yet if he questions the existence of God, or compares God to Santa Claus, everyone thinks he is personally attacking them. No, the suggestion is that a person who believes in an "imaginary" diety, is a buffoon.

Quote:As time progresses, the less I like this place.You mean I don't turn you on anymore

Starfish was right about you. You always like to frame things to fit your agenda.You mean that I'm a fucking asshole? Nyah, nyah, Starfish was right about you! Shouldn't a moderator be an exemplar of maturity? At least a little bit?My "agenda" is that you complain about people being intolerant, but you are rather more intolerant than I am. You focus in on the religion thing, but there is a pretty long list of things that you not only think are "unnatural" or bad or stupid, but you're not afraid to tell people exactly what you think. Thank God we know that you think that a man's drinking breast milk is messed up. I don't know what we would have done without that opinion.(As Starfish often pointed out.. you like to take things out of context and make then fit your agenda..You failed to mention that I though men who had the "need" to nurse might have some deep-seated issues with nurturing and Mother/child issues -sdp)Go back and read through your many, many posts. Some good fraction are helpful (though normally quite brief), but half of them are bitches, insults, and putdowns. What makes you so sour?(So I have 5000 "bitches, insults, and putdowns"??? Yeah right Steve -sdp)Quote:My attitude towrds gays is shitty huh? OK. I think homosexuality is biologically not natural. But, if they are gay, fine by me.. Yup yup yup, that's a shitty attitude.Yes, your attitude is shitty, about homosexuality and other things. But it's OK; after bad cop (you) insults someone, good cop (Ineligible) can make it all better.You're ignorant of biology if you think homosexuality is unnatural. It's as natural as red hair. It occurs in most if not all mammals. It even occurs among penguins, in the wild.(Another one of your out of context statements used to paint me as a gay hater....Nice...As usual you failed to mention, that when we had this discussion long ago, no one could provide me with an answer, not how or why homosexuality occurs in nature, but what the purpose was for nature to create a homosexual. Even the great Steve had no answer. We left it as a biological anomaly. It's not bad or anyones fault that they are gay.. That's the way they are and should have every right afforded to any human being. -sdp)You're a moderator? Good. Your expertise in foreskins is worthy of respect. Now go learn something else about biology.Quote:"little tolerance for people's "weird" sexual proclivities"OK so eating shit, drinking piss and adults needing to suckle and nurse milk from a womans breast is weird in my book. I guess I must now condem them, eh? Please point out all the other intolerant views on people's "weird" sexual proclivities that I might have. You are a cornucopia on facts and trivia.Drinking urine is common in some cultures. It's credited with curative powers, although I don't buy that. But if done in moderation, it doesn't cause harm.So, have you ever smoked? Do you think that causes more or less harm than drinking urine? Do you think smoking is "natural"? In fact, is wearing clothes "natural"?Go do a search on "sdp's sour attitude about lots of things", and you'll be sure to get thousands of hits.Quote:And now because of this... I'm full of shit.No, I think you're intolerant about lots of stuff, including the subject of this thread. I don't know what you mean by "full of shit".Unless you can honestly say that you fully respect an adult's belief in Santa Clause, you are full of shit. To me, Jesus, Santa, God, Vishnu, and Zeus are interchangeable. None makes less sense than any of the others.(That's nice, but calling someone a idiot(in your fine linguistic manner) due to their beliefs becasue it doesn't fit your logical and scientific template is just not constructive)Quote:You know, when you walk through a field and then you get a pesky little gnat or fly that starts swirling around in your face? You swat and shoo it away but it comes back. You can flail your arms all you like but it just keeps comming back again and again and again. You Steve are just like that little gnat.So this is what pases for clever discourse and argument for you? (Not a discourse, just a statement of how you are percieved by many. -sdp)Quote:You are incessant and pester people to death. You must have been a diminutive person growing up and used intelligence as a counterbalance.That's it. Let it all out. Vent. Feel better now? Clearly you have nothing intelligent to say, so a verbose version of "Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you!" feels really good, right?I don't know about being full of shit, but you are a shitty example of how you claim this site should be used.Quote:Now you use it browbeat people into submission and you're good at it. Your 17,000 posts in the past 2 years are a testimonial to your pestering. You've become a intellectual bully. You have no problem calling others bullies but you, in fact, are no better. You probably don't see it but many other do. You thrive on dominating over people. Does that make you feel good or something?I'm saying that, certainly right now, you are a bad example of a moderator. Apparently moderators are not above having childish temper tantrums.If someone wants to argue a point, and they're reasoning is to call me a dickhead, then I become a "bully".You are a "public figure". You are subject to criticism. Being a moderator sure as hell doesn't put you above all that. You may not like my approach, and Ineligible might not like my people skills, but your response with a barrage of insults is classic.Quote:What exactly are you doing in a place like this?Might I ask you the same question?It doesn't matter. I'm not a moderator. I wouldn't be one. The question is, why would someone with your temperament become a moderator? Does it get you off to keep showing your moral superiority to everyone, and criticize all the many things that you find disagreeable? In fact, if you'd just say something like, "I find that disagreeable", it wouldn't be so bad. But you always need to twist the knife. I wonder how many people who've come here with a question you deem weird have been put off by that.Quote:Why doesn't your computer break for good? It was quite nice for a while. (twice actually)You know, there was a time before you became and Administrator when you weren't on as often. It was fine. Nyah, nyah, got you back. Aren't we mature?Administrate more, criticize less.

Quote:Dayum, Son! That's like.. 10~ Burns.That's pretty dope, man.I'm Catholic(Or so they say) and I didn't get offended by these debates. It's just when these apes generalize all Christians.It's cute how he still replies to me. Thank God for the ignore button! It's a life saver.I need to come on more ofter -- I gotta his reply.For someone who got banned, came back with another ID, lied about it, got banned again, came back with a couple more IDs....I'm trying to think of a time that you've posted something useful, but I'm drawing a blank. Perhaps you can point to a constructive post of yours, if such a thing exists.If you'd stop with the "fuck you"s and such, the site would be a better place."Apes", huh? You are such a clever little boy, a little boy with such a big temper.

Quote:What I've been noticing is that all the Christians who are, supposedly, so eager to push their beliefs on others are not the ones starting these threads. They just respond in defense of what they believe. Seems as if perhaps the Christians are the ones being persecuted...not the ones doing the persecuting.A Christian with a persecution complex. Qelle ironie. I'm not sure what country you live in, but reality extends beyond this Web site. In this 85% Christian country, and even more so, in the over 50% evangelical South, everyone is bathed in a sea of Christianity, whether or not they are Christian.Maybe you live in New York or San Francisco, but in most other places, if you're in middle school, you'd be better off saying you're gay than saying you're homosexual. Religion is everywhere, on money, in the Pledge of Allegiance that all children are taught, and -- worst of all -- in politics. Politics is saturated with religious morality, and who rates and who doesn't. A black man, a Moslem, a Jew, and a gay person all have a shot at winning elective office (although not in some conservative districts). An out-of-the-closet atheist wouldn't have a prayer. They may exist, but they don't mention their beliefs, or lack thereof.I'm sorry, I can't shed a tear over your perceived persecution. I'll never know what it's like to be a black man, but I can put myself in his shoes and sympathize. You will never have any idea what it's like to be a non-believer in the U.S., at least outside of the cities, and Massachusetts.

Good boy Steve.. If you think I was having a tantrum then so be it. You want to paint me as a monger, then so be it. It's not unexpected of you and you do it so eloquently, too! Gosh, I'm so uptight I'm going to explode. Can you recommend a good hydraulic pump?As much as you have been a positive member, you have been just as negative. I've privately defended you in the past. Unfortnately most people on this board won't open their mouth because of your tirades. And if they do, your wasp-like attacks drive them away. It not the first time this has been discussed.I don't need to defend myself. I think most people see the real picture not the one you paint. I think you might need a need a bigger easel.You can go and complain. Be my guest.

Originally Posted By: DxLISHxISx_43

I have seen people actually say they are going to kick Steve's ass....sounds like a personal attack to me. However I have never seen Steve say anything like that.

I get what you're saying, and you may be right.
However, I think there might be a game being played here. If I say to someone "F you. You're a moron", then it's obvious to everyone that I'm levying a personal attack. No questions.
However, if I'm really smart, I can dress my personal attack up in pretty language and big ACT words and sophist arguments, so that it isn't obvious to most people that it is, in fact, a personal attack. It's rather passive-aggressive I think. And actually a damned good strategy. Cause if you call me out I can claim the high moral ground and accuse you of ad hominem attacks on poor little old me who is just trying to carry on a logical, passionless debate.

In short...I ain't buying it.