Piercings, Ooh lala.

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BINGO!

And a world-renowned union wouldn't change it? Excellent logic, Aristotle!

I guess you really can't fix stupid...

Originally Posted By: RadecklI'll let you and Sexpert duke it out to see who decides how Spanish speaking people from North & South America define themselves. I just realized that I said something similar, lol.  Originally Posted By: Virtual_StarOver here, those of Spanish heritage are called Hispanic or Latino/a. Some Mexicans use Chicano. But I guess it really comes down on how each individual wants to lable themselves as.

You mean britney spears isn't a man? And yeah about that pic, I knew you would bring him up! Although he is scrumptios looking with that piercing!

Oh my god, am I a bad person for laughing at that?

Originally Posted By: JEDI-ALCHEMISTAlthough he is scrumptios looking with that piercing!Back off, you WHORE!

No offense but, do you even understand what the word means now in the 21st century? It's very different now I can tell you that!

Hrm...Can't you guys just amke a new Topic and argue about this there?I am actually interested in piercings, so...Yeah.

Sorry baby but he is burning hott!;)

Sorry honey, but people hijack threads all the time. You're going to get used to it here.Besides, it's what keeps things interesting!

You know I have always wanted one, but I'm too scared too of the pain, :fearful: Do you know how bad it hurts? Cause if you have other piercings then it shouldn't be a bother will it? Oh and I think you should weigh the options I mean sure it heals after a while but at the same time it's very trouble some to wait for it to heal.

Originally Posted By: JEDI-ALCHEMISTYou know I have always wanted one, but I'm too scared too of the pain, Do you know how bad it hurts? Cause if you have other piercings then it shouldn't be a bother will it? Oh and I think you should weigh the options I mean sure it heals after a while but at the same time it's very trouble some to wait for it to heal. Never had a piercing, I want navel to be my first, so that if I plan on getting others it will be like nothing.I think it is worth the wait.

Cool! By the way, do you know if you bleed after the piercing like the second after you get the piercing there is blood? I mean I know you've never had a piercing before but I assume you have read into it or at least know some stuff about it?

Oh thanks helmsman! Even though I'm not the one getting the piercing heh heh. :scream_cat: But at least it's good to have the info on hand right?

Words mean what they are used to mean - it's usage that is the arbiter of what a word means.It seems that usage at present is rather uncertain, however, and dictionaries disagree. They don't even agree on what is meant by "Latin America" - though all agree that Brazil is included, they disagree as to whether French-speaking nations such as Haiti or Guyane are included (though they agree that Quebec is not included).The term "Latino" is considered to be an abbreviation of "latinoamericano", and therefore is not the same as "Latin", which the website previously cited seems to assume (but it does not assume either of these is the same as "Hispanic"). However many dictionaries confine the term Latino to descendants of Spanish-speaking nations only, thereby excluding Brazilians; sometimes they also include direct Spanish ancestry, thereby making it synonymous with "Hispanic", which, although it comes from the Latin word for the whole Iberian peninsula, is in practice used only of the Spanish-speaking world.The American Heritage Dictionary adds the note:Usage Note: Though often used interchangeably in American English, Hispanic and Latino are not identical terms, and in certain contexts the choice between them can be significant. Hispanic, from the Latin word for "Spain," has the broader reference, potentially encompassing all Spanish-speaking peoples in both hemispheres and emphasizing the common denominator of language among communities that sometimes have little else in common. Latino—which in Spanish means "Latin" but which as an English word is probably a shortening of the Spanish word latinoamericano—refers more exclusively to persons or communities of Latin American origin. Of the two, only Hispanic can be used in referring to Spain and its history and culture; a native of Spain residing in the United States is a Hispanic, not a Latino, and one cannot substitute Latino in the phrase the Hispanic influence on native Mexican cultures without garbling the meaning. In practice, however, this distinction is of little significance when referring to residents of the United States, most of whom are of Latin American origin and can theoretically be called by either word. · A more important distinction concerns the sociopolitical rift that has opened between Latino and Hispanic in American usage. For a certain segment of the Spanish-speaking population, Latino is a term of ethnic pride and Hispanic a label that borders on the offensive. According to this view, Hispanic lacks the authenticity and cultural resonance of Latino, with its Spanish sound and its ability to show the feminine form Latina when used of women. Furthermore, Hispanic—the term used by the U.S. Census Bureau and other government agencies—is said to bear the stamp of an Anglo establishment far removed from the concerns of the Spanish-speaking community. While these views are strongly held by some, they are by no means universal, and the division in usage seems as related to geography as it is to politics, with Latino widely preferred in California and Hispanic the more usual term in Florida and Texas. Even in these regions, however, usage is often mixed, and it is not uncommon to find both terms used by the same writer or speaker.Part of the problem seems to be that it is not clear whether these terms are meant to refer to ancestry, or culture, or ethnicity, or race. The last seems particularly pointless, given the mixing of European, Moorish, Native American and in some cases African ancestry found in Latin American nations. And whether there is much common ethnicity or culture between, say, Argentinians and Cubans, apart from the language, seems debateable.

Originally Posted By: HelmsmaNWhen the time comes - be careful and treat your naval piercing as follows, otherwise you may have "problems" - Clean using a liquid antibacterial soap with a low pH such as PROVONE two or three times a day for at least 8 weeks (some piercing might take longer). It is easiest to clean AFTER showering (bath water contains dirt and body fluids which may irritate the piercing). Rinse hands and work up lather with second application of cleanser. Gently scrub the jewelry and piercing until you certain ALL dry matter is removed. Move jewelry slightly so solution cleans inside of the piercing too. Rinse with clean water. Clean piercing and jewelry with clean Q-Tip. DO NOT TOUCH!My wife treated her pretty bellybutton ring this way IN ADDITION to saline soaks with sea salt. This is the guy that did it for her. You can find good information on his website. Turns out my sister has a friend that has her liscense and would be willing to do mine for free. And I have a bit of info on Navel and Tongue.Navel piercingClean your belly button 2 times daily (no more, no less) with antibacterial soap. Before cleaning, use a cu-tip soaked in warm water to gently remove any crust that may have formed around the ring.In addition to regular cleanings, salt-water soaks work well to promote healing. You can buy non-iodized sea salt and put about 1/2 tsp in 1/4 cup of cooled boiled water. Put this in a shot glass or small medicinal cup and bend over. Place it over your navel, lie down and kill 15 minutes. This helps get rid of any pending infections. Other than for cleanings and salt water soaks, leave your piercing alone. Do not move your navel jewelry around. If you want to see it, look in a mirror. Avoid swimming pools and spas. If you must, be sure to clean your navel immediately afterwards with antibacterial soap. Lavender oil and tea tree oil may help speed healing. To be sure that you are using the essential oils appropriately, consult your piercing professional before using them. Wear a waterproof bandage over a new (up to six months) piercing when swimming to avoid bacterial contamination. Avoid using laundry detergents that contain stain fighting enzymes on clothing that will come into direct contact with the piercing. The enzymes can impede healing. Don't touch your new belly button piercing with dirty hands. Don't let other people touch it... or lick it. Replace your belly button piercing jewelry only after your piercing has completely healed (usually 6 months to a year). When you are ready to replace your belly button ring, select a quality piece of jewelry the does not contain nickel to avoid a possible allergic reaction. You can find a great selection of nickel-free gold belly rings at AlluringBody. Although the belly button piercing is one of the most popular piercings it can be one of the most difficult to heal. It can take anywhere from 6 months to a year to heal. Curved barbells should be used to wear initially after the piercing as they allow for the safest and fastest healing. Wearing tight waistbands or frequent activity involving bending at the waist can prolong healing time. The pressure of waistbands can force the ring to one side causing the piercing to heal crookedly and scar. Too much pressure can cause the piercing to migrate or reject completely.Oral piercing (Tongue, cheek, lip, labret)Many piercing locations involve the mouth and should be considered oral piercings. These include any piercing that has an opening inside the mouth.Use an alcohol free mouthwash to rinse your mouth 4-5 times daily for 30-60 seconds, including after meals and at bedtimes To clean the outside of the piercing, use sea salt soaks 2-3 times daily and wash with mild anti-microbial soap no more than twice a day. Do not touch the piercing or jewelry except for cleaning. Always wash your hands with antibacterial soap before touching the piercing or jewelry. Dry with disposable paper products rather than a towel or cloth which can harbor germs and bacteria. Let small ice chips dissolve in the mouth to help reduce swelling. Use ibuprofen or another non-steroidal anti-inflammatory for swelling if needed. Avoid tobacco, alcohol, large amounts of caffeine, oral sexual contact (including French kissing), chewing gum and playing with jewelry during healing. Avoid overly spicy, hot, salty or acidic foods for a few days. Cold drinks can help soothe and reduce swelling during the healing. The original jewelry should be replaced with shorter jewelry after the swelling has reduced. See your piercer for this change, as it usually will be during the healing period. :]

Sorry Bro, I'm just gonna borrow your thread to clear something up. "Latinos," I'll stick to this term, are people from latin america including brazil excluding spain. The term "Hispanic" is taken offensevely by some harcore mexicans in this country because they feel that its a term made by white america to label them. And keep in mind, Circa, this is all culturall and has nothing to do with s. africas point of view.Mestizo=a mixture of races:Latinos are almost ALWAYS of mixed race. the spaniards came and brought their slaves and mixed with the natives. thats how latinos were formed, it is not meant to be derived from rome.many latinos do not even recognize this because some that ive met of mexican descent do not even know that part of history.

Yaay, so we pierced it tonight, we were using the wrong sized needle without realizing it. So, we were getting frustrated cuz she couldnt put the butterfly in, see, the butterfly was a 14 gauge, the needle was 16. We had to re-pierce 3 times, so finally my sister said "Screw this" got one of her lip rings, soaked it in alcohol for 5 minutes, and put that in. It's cool though, I like it. I will post a pic of it, its still red though, we did it like 5 minutes ago.

That sounds like a complete, painful disaster. What happened to seeing a real professional?