American Idol Season 8

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I have to admit Adam rocked it out last night, and Kris fell pretty flat. I'm predicting an Adam win tonight.... though never under estimate the "tweenie" girls and their speed-dialing texting. It'll be an interesting finale.

How sad and pathetic... and hate to break it to the author but in my book thats "gay bashing".

I think that's gay bashing in everyones book but thor's and apparently good Christian folk. Isn't Idol theoretically supposed to be about talent and not agenda promoting. These damn Christians with their in your face agendas.

Is voting for Kris because he's a Christian any worse than voting for Adam because he might be gay?Is not voting for Adam because he might be gay any worse than not voting for Kris because he's "religous"?Gay...straight...Christian...pagan...I could care less. The bottom line is Kris has more talent in his little Christian pinky than Adam has in his entire flamboyant body. And Adam has gotten by on yelling and calling it singing.There. I said it. Now can we keep the Christian/Gay discussions in the Thor threads and let this be about AI, which I'm sure no Christian or Gay person watches, right?

That was my point shouldn't it be about talent and not one or the other's religion or sexual orientation. What rad posted didn't say vote for Kris because he's the best it said vote for him because he would be a good Christian role model rather than another gay star kids look up to.

Quote: Is voting for Kris because he's a Christian any worse than voting for Adam because he might be gay?Is not voting for Adam because he might be gay any worse than not voting for Kris because he's "religous"?Thats why I played it safe and didn't vote at all hehe ... and that fact i could really care less who wins this year hehe But seriously it's a talent competition and it SHOULD come down to who has the best talent... but as Americal Idol hostory shows that's just not always the case.

Well Kris won last night, and I was not shocked at all. I figured most of Danny's votes were going to go to Kris. I do think Adam deserved to win over Kris, but eh oh well! They are both getting record contracts and I do have a feeling Adam will end up out selling Kris... time will tell

I dunno, Eddie. I think there are a lot of people that are thinking that Adam will be this billion dollar artists. I don't know that I would assume that. For one thing, he's a one trick pony. Another thing...think about the music business today. Where does someone like Adam fit it? People don't sell records because they can sing like him. They sell records because they are popular. And apparently, he's not as popular as Kris.As for Kris, when you consider the current music scene...he's the perfect fit. John Mayer, Jason Mraz, One Republic, The Fray, O.A.R. - that's his style and those guys are huge right now. Of course, you can never tell. Chris Daughtry sure outsold Taylor Hicks. But that was about stupid decision making.I just don't see Adam being this huge "iconic" artists that the judges and others say he will be. (Unless he sticks to Broadway.)

Oh don't get me wrong I agree with you. I try and imagine what type of CD Adam will put out and I just cannot figure it out. It will surely be interesting.Only thing I don't agree with you is the popularity side of what you said. In a show like American Idol it’s hard to say who truly is the most popular... I think it comes down to who has the fans who have the fastest dialing/texting fingers lol. I personally still think the only reason Kris won was because he got the majority of Danny's voters.Now keep in mind I'm not really a fan of either Adam or Kris... I loved me some Allison. I still think she's going to out sell them all

Rad...Rad...Rad...I love you man, but you are so wrong.
Let me break this down for you.

I'll bet you dollars to donuts the little girl vote went to Adam. Sure, Kris is a good looking kid, but I'm betting Adam and his emo schtick appeals much more to teeny boppers. I think Kris got the mature vote...or most of it. I, and a lot of people I know, voted for Kris because he's the talented one. Sure, he can't screech like Adam. And I'll even acknowledge that, in those rare times he chooses to use it, Adam has a wonderful pure voice. But, as I've said before, he gets by on wailing out high notes and making people think he's something original when he's not at all.

Kris on the other hand is REEKING with talent. He's a great singer and an all round great musician. 85% of the times he stepped up he did something truly original. There is no way Adam is more talented than Kris.

As for the Christian values comment, I don't know that I necessarily agree... or at least not in the way you are posing it. Sure, I'll bet Kris did get the Christian vote. But it's not about "Kris is a Christian so I'll vote for him." I just think that most Christians who watch the show (not all) are probably predisposed to like his style of singing and performing more than Adam's. "Religious bigotry" is a thoughtless overstatement.

Anyway...just my opinion. (And I'm a musician. ;))

who won? kris or adam? email me the winner's name please if you can damien. i'm out of here

ill just put this out there.. I'm in kris allens "home town"...

Shit has been nuking futs the past 2-3 weeks...

no i'm not a fan, and no i didn't go the parade. just thought i'd share :smile:

Originally Posted By: Rad

Then, Kris said it pretty good last night on TV.
Something like: I don't friggin deserve this. Adam does.

Well, that's not exactly what he said. You kind of make it sound like something it really wasn't.

Originally Posted By: Rad Originally Posted By: damienAnyway...just my opinion. (And I'm a musician. ;)) A better musician than the American Idol judges and various & sundry other very successful musical experts who have given their opinion?Anyway, just their opinions and the press is full of them. Simon - Knows the business but knows squat about music.Randy & Paula - Know the business and obviously know music. But I would put my knowledge of music theory up against them.Kara - Nope. I can't touch her.Your other "very successful musical experts" - Depends on who they are. Most "successful musicians" these days know very little about music at its core. Ask Fergie what a diminished fourth is. Or ask Madonna what I IV V I means. You'll get stumped looks. Of course there are a few of them out there who know more about composition and theory then I'll ever dream of knowing.I'm just saying...

It's not really that big of a deal.

I'm sorry you see that as an attack. It wasn't.Really...

That would make him wrong.

Apparently Kris didn't mean what you seem to think he meant. Read this: Kris Allen Just Wants Respect

The point I'm making is that Kris wasn't saying Adam deserved it more than he did. You can't draw that conclusion at all. And where do you get that he thought Lambert was more talented than he is? He doesn't say that. He says Lambert was was consistent and a gifted performer.I'm confused...What statement did I make that you think Kris didn't back up? That I think he deserved to win? I think he did kind of say he deserved it as much as Adam. Any way...it was my opinion and one that I backed up pretty well. Not in the sense that a reasonable person couldn't disagree. But I'm not an idiot for making my points. I also never equated personal preference with actual talent. What I did was say that I prefer Kris because I think he's more talented. Then I gave reasons why I believe he's more talented. You disagreed.But we're not gonna convince each other are we? I like Kris. You like Adam. Tomatoes, tomahtoes. I've been hearing some rumbling over the past couple of days that Adam might get the gig as front man for Queen. I actually think that would be a poor decision on his part.