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So when did you first really start wanting them and/or start trying?as for me i wouldnt mind having a son or daughter now if i had the financial security

With us we were waiting for the security of a permanent job, but then decided it was getting late (we were 34). As it happened the permanent job occurred as soon as we decided not to wait for it.

Originally Posted By: DantekSo when did you first really start wanting them and/or start trying?as for me i wouldnt mind having a son or daughter now if i had the financial security I'm actually to the point I really want kids now, though I'm a little older than you I'm 27. Financially I feel we are ready (though is anyone truly ever financially ready??), but being a gay couple it makes it a little harder to start a family hehe.

I want to wait a long ass time. My Dad keeps telling me how life was slow and easy, then kids turn up and all of a sudden he's 50. Not that he's unhappy, he just says your life changes dramatically and you become very busy all of a sudden.

Kids make you old.I had my first at 19 and it drastically changed my life and life style. I have a fucking basketball team.If you count step kids I have 1 s son@ 18 last 2 weeks ago, a son @ 17 this last monday, a s daughter @ 16 this november, a son @ 14 but 15 this december, another s daughter at 14 3 weeks ago and my youngest son who was 4 on the fourth of July.Just when I thuoght I was out!, They pull me back in!Just as my own had gotten old enough to allow me to have a normal adult life and no baby sitters I ended up with awoman and a 6 month old child. Im the only dad he has ever or will ever know. Adoption shit is in teh works, its all a matter of money and time and the notice published in newspapers the piece of shit sperm donor will never see to allow him to contest giving up all his rights that hes never used to begin with. Of course even if he does see it I doubt hes say shit, hes never seen him, left as soon as he found out she was pregnant, and never wrote or called or a damned thing, not a fucking email. He currently owes sometihng like 16k in back child support and that debt goes away if he signs the papers, if he doesnt sign the papers and doesnt contest it then in a matter of Im not sure how many days it goes through no matter what.so 2 with driverslicences and 1 that will have it soon enough, and 1 every year after that being added for the next 2 years and even after all that Ill have a 6 year old who ten years after the last gets hes will be after one. Sons ar far easier I think to deal with, but then you get the danger factor! what stupid shit can I do today that dad did and got broken bones for when he was a kid? what can I do to risk my life and make my parents shit themselves?of course the girls being step daughters doesnt make shit much easier, now I have the whole Im not your dad, but Im with your mom and I still care about you but cant say or do shit. Its fucking aggrivating to have them dating boys, I know what boys want, the pervy little bastards want the same thing I want! so I end up with daughter sthat are not mine but still get all teh aggrivation of having a daughter. The only good thing is that when they are with me and some skeevy littel fuckwad is scoping them out, they dont know wether to shit or go blind when I catch em. at 5 11 with the beard and covreed in tattoos and leather people dont much care for making eye contact with me, and punk ass kids just run.For all the good, all the rewards that come from having children there is also much heartache. A cut on thier face is a cut to them, its a lifelong scar and pain for me, a broken bone is just that to them, its much harder on me for them to break a bone than it is for them I think. Some kid fucking with them at school sends me into hysterics and a blood lust. besides all of that, all the normal parent stuff Ill tell you something I know from experience.WAIT to have kids. what are you ? 17? something close to that if I remember correctly, it wasnt tha long ago you were talking about getting a drivers license so Im assuming your 16 maybe 17. Your a kid, kids shouldnt be having kids. Insurance, diapers, food, clothes that get worn 6 times before they are outgrown and need new ones, then they get older and 200 dollar shoes get turned to fucking trash in a matter of weeks and need to be replaced, they suddenly NEED a guitar, extra shoes for basketball, fees for rec leagues,the latest name brands, and they all think mom and dad dont know shit and dont understand what they are going throuhg that time has changed and tis different than when they were kids.times change but emotions and social awkwardness never changes we know exactly what the fuck they are going through.I was in college when I found out I was to be a dad, I had to quit, waste the education I had, and goto work fulltime in a shit hole to pay for everything.If you want a kid, have a life first, get done with the shit you feel you need to do, gain some life perspective, sow some seeds, fuck around and live some life then when youv done the shit you cant do if yuo have kids and your financially better off, then go ahead and find the right girl instead of the girl for right now and have a kid.

I will never have kids even though everyone that knows me says how good of a father I'd be. I've been a teacher and older brother so I know how to work with kids, but I'll never...NEVER have my own, nor will I ever marry.

Quote:So when did you first really start wanting them and/or start trying? them..as in kids.well Shannon wants a girl and a boy. she's got their names picked (back up names incase both or girls or both or boys) she wonders if there goingto have blond hair or dark hair or green eyes or blue.... there going to have ponies. she's even stopped and look at little kids cloths.. little cowboy boots... i don't have the heart to tell her i don't want kids.

I don't want kids.

Originally Posted By: Grvtykllr

Kids make you old.
I had my first at 19 and it drastically changed my life and life style.
I have a fucking basketball team.
If you count step kids I have 1 s son@ 18 last 2 weeks ago, a son @ 17 this last monday, a s daughter @ 16 this november, a son @ 14 but 15 this december, another s daughter at 14 3 weeks ago and my youngest son who was 4 on the fourth of July.
Just when I thuoght I was out!, They pull me back in!

Holy Crap Chance...ever heard of condoms? Christ!

When it's all said and done, I bet you're a frickin good Dad and husband!

yeah i know what you mean and im not gunna go out and knock a girl up, but im also not too quick to chop the balls off..metaphorically of course, and im 18, was late to get my license,