School Uniforms: Yes or No?

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"I just cant phathom how HOW it could happen and he could not say anything about it."I don't think it's him, it's just a manifestation of the age he's at. Even in very open households I doubt to many kids would be willing to say anything until it starts hurting.I think it goes to demonstrate, just how wrong, most parents are who live under the delusion that their kids are going to come talk to them about sex or drugs or whatever, should they have questions.Like I said, I don't think it's him. I think it's just the way kids are. I don't know, but I doubt I would have said anything. Of course I'm not a parent so it's more than likely I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. All I'm sayin' is it sure seems that way to me.

I can see tha point, but not with us. I mean he did come to me with questions about sex and drugs adn drinking. it was a bad fucking talk explaing my past drug usage and how its not hypocritical that I still dont approve of his trying shit out, sex was an easier talk than that one. he told me about his balls ayear or so ago and I looked and it was slightly bigger, like no reason to be concerned there isnt a pair in the world that are the same size, told him to watch it but most likely was fine if anthing changed wed go see a doctor. nevre said jack shit and a year or so later we find out by a doc and its the size of a grapefruit? fuck oh dear not a dingle mention inthe whole time it continued to grow. before it was just that it hung slightly lower than the opther one, not that it was really any bigger, this should of been brought up as soon as it started. maybe Im delusinal by thinking he should have told me there was a problem and that shit had changed, I dunno but I do know that when it gets that big, he HAD to know there was somethign wrong and told me. he could not have thought it was normal. too late, past all that shit, its time to deal with it now that we know about it and hope that some kid reading this now or in the future that has the same shit going on becomes alarmed and seeks help instead of waiting. If we are going to continue this conversation I prolly better make a new thread to discuss it in instead of derailing a couple of others and can just ad info as it progresses. just to illistrate how young yuo can be and end up with bad shit..hes 14, freshman in HS, 160 lbs and 6'1" and has been active and healthy for years, been playing ball for years and dominates his age group in all rec leagues hes been in. of course thats easy to do in basketball when your 6 foot and the other kids are 4 something. age doesnt mean shit, you cna have problems occur at any age just because your young doenst mean your invisinceable and it wont happen to you. speaking form experience Ill tell anyone who listens, your parents wont fuck ya over it, they wont make fun of you or give yuo any shit they want whats best for you, this would of all been easier had it been dealt with early on, dont let it go or wait to see what happens. If you have a problem for fuck sakes tell your parents, let them take soem of the stress and make shit happen to get it corrected.

That's very true, OldFolks.I do hope it turns out to be nothing major, Chance. I can well imagine how it weighs on your mind, and the feeling (untrue, but parents get it anyway) that you should have known.

I hope everything turns out well.

As do I.

I'm for uniforms. I'm really surprised that uniforms haven't been enforced where I live. When I was in middle school, there were countless fights between people who wore fubu and dixie outfitter shirts.

Originally Posted By: websexinfoI'm for uniforms. I'm really surprised that uniforms haven't been enforced where I live. When I was in middle school, there were countless fights between people who wore fubu and dixie outfitter shirts. That stinks. Thank you for getting us back on topic.

I think it's run it's course.

For the duration I worked in my sales job at Future Shop (kind of a commissioned salesmen version of Best Buy in Canada) I hated wearing a uniform, especially since I started on night shift doing inventory for entertainment and had the freedom to wear what I wanted when I started. The attire was black dress shirt and beige khaki's, and I still found it frustrating. I've always felt more comfortable and confident in my own clothes (though, I admit it gave me an appreciation for being able to choose what I wear) and I believe that shines through. I'm more willing to work, learn, and just be myself when I can truly be myself. I love being dressy if it's called for, but for the time I was working there it just didn't appeal to me because I'd wear the exact same thing 5 days a week.Maybe it's just me and a handful of others, but I find it frustrating and even slightly humiliating having to wear the same specific uniform all the time. I know it has its place, and in a job like that you should look professional and be set out from the customers so they know who you are, but it just didn't click well with me.My thinking of why it was like that is because I didn't see that as being me (I'm not a salesperson, it was just a job), so the little individuality I had felt like it was being taken away. For school, where you don't have the choice of not going, I don't believe it's right either (though a minimal dress code should be in place, there's obviously some things that aren't appropriate). Being my own person is very important to me and I don't like the idea of an institution that you are required to attend (well, I suppose there's home schooling) dictating that. Having a job I didn't want where I had to dress like that every day was bad enough. Now if it's my own choice, that's different.

Now I find it's hard to take the stance I do, because as much as I find it frustrating, if it would really decrease school problems like that then it might be worth it. Still... I'd have no desire to wear a mandated uniform if I were back in grade school.

Originally Posted By: sdpUniforms are meant to eliminate individuality so that the environment can be about LEARNING. Its meant to equalize everyone so that the HAVE's and the HAVE NOT's are the same. It's intended to reduce the chance that someone will be ostracized just because they dress weird, etc... Yep.

I don't believe that removing individuality in schools by forcing students to wear uniforms improves anything! It just makes some kids mad because they can't express themselves through their clothing.Another con about uniforms is an emergency situation. If a parent has to identify their child in a large crowd, it would be a lot harder if he/she was wearing a uniform and therefore looked like everyone else of the same gender. If the child is not wearing a uniform, the parent can ID them by their face and clothing. With uniforms, they only have the face to go by.Of course, everyone has their own opinions. This just happens to be mine.

We get it dude. Time to let it go.

I'm just stating more cons of uniforms.

I don't really care about uniforms anymore. In middleschool I used to hate them, but I go to a magnet school and at this point, I don't really care anymore. Our school isn't THAT strict anyways. Like we don't have to wear ties and blazers. It's not that big of a deal, and as most of you have said, it does take a lot of the focus off of the individuality, which is obviously important to learning. Besides, I'm probably going to wind up wearing some kind of uniform in a job, so, better get used to it, right?