well done Damien, well done.
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Capital Punishment
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I think capital punishment is more of the harsher crime. Jail isn't always that bad. Maybe the first couple of months where you are the fresh meat and you're getting use to everything. However in the end you become a part of that society and you learn and get use to it. I don't know about capital punishment. It seems hard to divide the line where who gets jail and who gets the lethal injection. I think we have it so it would save space in the jail cells.....lol. too bad torture is illegal under law. I think it breaks one ofthe amendments??? Of unusual punishments....I think? lol
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Jail isn't always that bad.I guess you haven't lived in a men's penitentiary! > too bad [?!?!?] torture is illegal under law. I think it breaks one ofthe amendmentsAside from the fact that it defies civilized behavior, the 8th amendment of the U.S. Constitution says: "Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."> I think we have it so it would save space in the jail cells.....It would be a lot cheaper to build more jails, even if the inmates were incarcerated for the rest of their lives.> It seems hard to divide the line where who gets jail and who gets the lethal injection.The U.S. Supreme court is continuing to refine that line. Now it's unconstitional to execute minors. Eventually, as popular opinion shifts against capital punishment, it will go away again (as it did for a number of years when the Supreme Court determined that the death penalty was unevenly applied w.r.t. race).
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Well Like...well like! I mean I know jail isn't great. But like I know this sounds stupid and media influenced. But like shawshank redemption sure he gets harassed like crazy and stuff...but he seemed..wait he was helped by the guards..nvm lol! So wait if guys get uhm...touched in jail. What do girls get in all girl jails? cause they never say anything bad about the female jails.
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Guys don't just get "touched" in jail, they also regularly get the crap beaten out of them if they're not an alpha male, or if they haven't learned how to make themselves invisible.But I'd give a women's prison a whirl if they'd let me in.
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Well...thats no fun. So in a girl's jail is it the same? Because I always hear what happens in an all male jail. However in a female jail its like...unheard of.
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Martha Stewart did OK in her cushy federal prison, but most aren't that nice. The problem is that there aren't usually enough female convicts (although that is changing) to justify building a lot of prisons, so the petty thieves are in with the violent killers...at least that's true in Massachusetts.
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Diane Sawyer just did a stint for PrimeTime or one of those shows about life in a womens penetentiary. I missed most of it, but what I saw, life in the womans section is/can be pretty brutal too. Women regularly have sex (forced or otherwise) with each other and those women who are "butch" are highly sought after and are almost priviledged. Being "butch" is the next best thing to having a man according to the inmates.
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I'm butch. Lemme in.There aren't many women on death row, but a woman was put to death in Texas not too long ago. I'm sure death row is hideous no matter your gender.
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Wow...sounds like a man's dream. Woman having sex with woman every single day....
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It's a popular theme for B movies.
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PMing is a discussion between two people. A forum thread is a discussion among any number of people. You were just stating your opinion, you weren't answering any questions. You take pride in being anti-capital punishment when your reason is "it's better for criminals to rot in prison."
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I wasn't even talking to you.Do you read what you write?
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I can't help it, I'm attacted to insanity.
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lol. too bad torture is illegal under law. I think it breaks one ofthe amendments??? Of unusual punishments....I think? lol
I was thinking that they should use them for medical testing. That way they can give back to society in payment for what they took. But this would probably go along with that whole cruel and unusual punishment as well. :frowning: Oh well.
BTW, Hello everyone, this is my first post! I probably picked the wrong subject to speak up on though. lol
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Hi, welcome to the boards. Good to know you believe in justice! :grin:
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it might deter crime, if capitol punishment were universal. not just in certain states. perhaps that's the problem. people can commit crimes and flee to non-expediting countries. So if the whole world used the death penalty, i think serious crimes would significantly decrease. Also if all countries expedited foreign criminals.
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Personally, I think that the death penalty itself is a serious crime.
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I think in some instances, prison is a lot worse. Child molestation for example. Child molestors in prison are the bottom of the barrel...they get treated the worse, probably to the point where the offender might kill themselves. Or perhaps even serial murderers, such as Dahmer, he was killed by a fellow inmate, so I think sometimes death isn't the worse that can happen.
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The death penalty was once universal. There was still lots of crime.
Are you saying that there are people in Texas who just want to kill, but they know they'll be executed after they're caught there, so the go to Massachusetts to kill people, where they know they'll spend the rest of their lives in one of Massachusetts' horrible prisons? I don't think so.
All evidence that I'm aware of shows that the death penalty does not reduce the incidence of capital crimes. Most people who commit capital crimes are crazy and don't stop to think about the penal code before they do their killing. Capital punishment's purpose is to make society feel better. It's about vengeance.
You can argue that capital punishment is a facet of the violent American society.
Caelamondorion> I was thinking that they should use them for medical testing.
Same thing as torture. We don't do that in a civilized society.
