This Girl :: Need all the advice I can get.

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insearch you really need to get that sand out of your vagina soon. it must have been in there for months now.

k guys, no bickering now. the thread is for helping me, not destructing others. :-\

All right, I read through your first "convo", and the girl is asking you out. You are way, way, way overthinking this. Just ask her out next time you see her. If you go out soon enough before your birthiday, she can take you out on that day. Stop thinking. Just do it.

**I agree with steve, stop thinking and ask her, what is there to lose anyway, if she were to say no, which after reading your post, i very much doubt.

Oh and the 'amusing' reactions to you being over there at her house weren't i don't think necessarily negative, girls giggle and are amused over the silliest things at that age............

Go for it hon, and good luck *hug* **

lol hun she obviously liks you!!! go for it and soon before she gets the impression that you;re never gonna ask her out!!! let us know how it goes.

In reply to: All right, I read through your first "convo", and the girl is asking you out. You are way, way, way overthinking this. Just ask her out next time you see her. If you go out soon enough before your birthiday, she can take you out on that day. Stop thinking. Just do it. AMENdude just do it!force yourself out of your comfort zonesyou have something better to gain than loseask her outor just plant a kiss on her lipsthe latter has worked for me twice this year no pain, no gain!and stop anaylsing everything!!! you crazy boy. stop caring so much, and dont talk her up!

Ask her out. It sounds like she wants you and if you put it off, she's going to move on and your gonna be left with, just, your dick in your hand.Now, don't waist anymore time pondering over it, just go do it. Best of luck - even though it sounds like your not going to need it.

alright, it's 1:30pm right now and i'm at school, but what i've heard so far today has not been good news. Apparently yesterday, when i left early from lunch she told a few people at my table that I basically "invited myself over" and didn't really ask. I also think she said that I talked too much while at her house. So, today was a bit awkward at lunch.Anyways, I ended up talking to my friends, which are her friends too and they basically said that she doesn't really like me. These are two girls who have been friends with 'grace' sinc like 1st grade so they know her pretty well. I just got done talking with one of them and they said that she wants to be friends but not more than friends. So about 10 people know that I like her.Anyways, I know where her next period is and I've thought about going over to her and saying "I'm sorry for inviting myself over to your house. I didnt mean to come across that way. If I've been impolite or rude, I apologize now because it's not what I meant to do.So, I've talked to a few people and I guess I'll just have to see where it goes from here. She doesnt have practice for crew any more so hanging out might be more easier. Well, all is interesting. It's kind of made me a tad sad, but I guess that's life sometimes.

Sorry to hear about what you found out today. Best thing you can do is appologize like you said and take it a day at a time. Even if she doesn't want to be anything more than friends, it sounds like you have a close friend, so you aren't empty handed in the situation.

hey just because a mechanic has car trouble doesnt mean he cant fix your car.

exactly. i think she would really appriciate an apology if she does think you invited yourself over. im pretty sure you would get some positive feedback from that. she definately was flirting with you on aim, coming from a girl here id say apologise and work from what reation you get because im pretty sure she does like you. maybe google 'flirting' and keep a look out for body language signals leaking her true feelings towards you. good luck. hope it all works out for you hugs

Girls can be pretty evil, and what she told her friends may not have anything to do with how she really feels about you. You need to talk about it with her....as Amy said.

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I got home from track practice today and here's what she had left me a message.
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> HER :: HER :: (3:54:16 PM): hey yesterday you were asking about s.v. and i found out that on monday nights at 6:30 there is an upperclassman bible study for guys and girls at the leaders house so if you want to come let me know and ill get you more details, it would be really fun!
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> Auto-response from ME:: ME:: (3:54:16 PM): SLEEPING...
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> Thinking about you makes me feel amazing. You make me smile and we laugh together. When I look at the night's sky, I see the reflection of your face within the thousands of beautiful stars. When I look at the earth, I see the green life of your personality. It's simple; The nature of your presence keeps me breathing; because I'm crazy about you.
> HER :: HER :: (3:54:52 PM): thats a really sweet away message, is it a song?
> HER :: HER :: (4:12:25 PM): well im doing homework and then going to dance, you can call me if you want
> HER :: HER :: (4:48:19 PM): actually, anne just told me that some people have been saying some pretty mean things and we need to talk because well i dunno, just call me when you get this, i have dance from 7:30-9 but other than that i can talk.
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So I called her and talked to her... Apparently she had sent me this email
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> i wanted to clear some things up. i have a lot of family problems and have grown up with a lot of problems. with out getting into the details (because its just to emotional and not of great importance right now) i wanted to let you know that i have a lot of issues when it comes to relationships in general. i unfortunately, have a tendency of pushing people away because a lot of people who have gotten close to me have walked out and never really cared about me. That doesnt really have anything to do with you i know, but the point of this to make sure its clear that i think you are really funny and can always make me laugh (which i appreciate a lot) but im feeling a bit bombarded by everything. i dont really rush into things at all, and i dont even really know you that well, so i am all for getting to know each other and what not, but as of now thats kind of it on my part. i know when you were at my house you said that you liked me and im not sure exactly what you meant by that, but it kind of made me uncomfertable because it was so sudden, and im not saying i dont like you, im asking if you can just slow way down and just be friends? i really do like talking to you though, you are one of the few people i know who have the same kind of ideas and values as me and you intrigue me, so i dont want any stupid teenage drama and i dont want you to hear things from other people because they are full of crap and need to mind their own business sometimes, so i just wanted to fill you in on where i stand, and if im totally off base about your position, i apologize, it was just mentioned to me today that you liked me and i was thinking about it and just wanted to let ya know that i am enjoying getting to know you and talking to you, but its just part of me getting to know people that i do it very slowly and occasionally and completely inadvertantly i push people away and regret it so im sorry if i led you to believe otherwise and i wanted to tell you in person, but i didnt really know when to talk to you about it without having a bunch of people around. so i hope you understand, and please email me back or talk to me about it, because i dont want this to be taken as a "leave me alone" thing its just a "by the way" type thing.
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> oh yea- i have peers during the first couple periods tomorrow and i was wondering if you could let me know what the homework assignment is, that would be great! see ya tmrw ( isnt that the funniest looking thing you've ever seen?!! ahh i liked it)
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i ended up talking to her on the phone for about half an hour.. found out that everything was a complete wrong interpretation at lunch. some people were suprised that we spent halloween together and they formed their own opinions. they started rumors, and the rumor got back to me. Apparently, from her email, she's still interested in me. And in order to properly understand my email, you'd have to hear our phone conversation, but I must say that it was VERY relaxing and comfortable. I'm glad that everything went smoothly and we got to talk. My email that I sent her is below.
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> Thanks for talking to me and clearing things up. I'll admit, I was a bit upset about the situation. I don't like English very much, but I LOVE poetry and quotes, so I'll have to show you a few of my poems that I wrote during the day today. Just to let you know, I absolutely love long emails. :smile:
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> Anyways in reply to what you wrote, I completely understand how family life can be hard, believe me mine is quite hard as it is already if only you could understand. I'm glad that I make you laugh. Some of my jokes are too corny, but my mom often complements me on my sense of humor.
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> You mentioned that you don't rush into things at all. I don't really rush into relationships either. In fact, I haven't really found someone worth my while to go out with. However, I have been pretty close with a few girls in the past.
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> " i know when you were at my house you said that you liked me and im not sure exactly what you meant by that, but it kind of made me uncomfertable because it was so sudden "
> In case you didnt catch it, one of the reasons I went over to your house is because I wanted to hang out with you and get to know you a bit more. When I said I liked you, it means that I like you as a friend, and if you're up to it, more than friends. I like your personality, your work ethic, the fact that you do things on time and manage a busy life, and that you have a "strict moral code" bascially that u can control your hormones. ... I understand that it probably made you feel uncomfortable, that's why I wasn't expecting any response, but giving me a hug was a good sign. Concisely, I respect your values and if you don't want to rush into anything, you can make the calls. Whatever pace you want to go at is fine with me. --You said "can you just slow way down "... I'm not really going very fast relative to average highschool relationships. Some people have sex after 4 weeks of dating, lol. Besides, one reason for relationships is to get to know the other person better. If you already know them very well, why would you go out? I'm sure many couples find out new things often. So there's definitly new things to learn.
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> I'm glad that we connect on this level. Yes, teenage drama is in fact very stupid. If you have heard that Black Eyed Peas song called "My Humps" that goes "You don't want no drama, //No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama" (sry, just had to get a music reference in there). you mentioned it before, but there's no reason to ruin your emotional life, sexual life, or social life in high school because that's only 4 years out of a much longer life. you mentioned. " i unfortunately, have a tendency of pushing people away because a lot of people who have gotten close to me have walked out and never really cared about me" I'm very sorry to hear about that, and i know how you feel because i can easily relate. That's actually one reason why I don't pursue people and get close to people very often. Anne is one of those people I've gotten close with. Close as in you open up your soul and tell them everything. Cry with them. And then hold them in your arms for a long time because you know they are there and that they care. But there are very few. Perhaps i might say "congradulations" on being a person I could find myself close with. And that's really another reason why I like you. You come across as genuine and someone who could return feelings.
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> Lunch is a really good time to talk. We can always leave the table and go talk elsewhere about stuff. I mean, you barely eat anything at lunch and I eat throughout the day, so on a good day, we oculd have 20 minutes or so to talk. We're the first ones to get there anyways. Also, since the cross country season is over and the rowing season is over, we can always hang out after school for a couple hours. I have some clubs that I'm in and it's off season for running, so running isn't a conflict. Our weekends are open too, so that's more time. I know I'm extremely busy and so are you, but if you really want to, you can make time for anything or anyone.
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> I am so glad that you called me. Perhaps one of the reasons I ran so hard today was because I was mad, but usually that wears off. Or maybe I just hated the person who was beating me. lol. Either way, I found a pleasant suprise when I got home. I'm glad we talked and got things "cleared up for the most part." It'd definitely be a priveledge to have you as my girlfriend, but I'm remembering that you're makin the calls here :wink: Alrighty, if you get this tonight, I won't be home until around 8:30 - 9PM, but i'll have a load of hw to do so you could probably catch me on the comptuer. Just to let you know, tomorrow after school is free for me.
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No offense, but you write emails like you're writing a personal review. "I like your personality, your work ethic, the fact that you do things on time and manage a busy life"Also, "at the leaders house", I just got a quick flash of the Simpsons there.And back to you: Just take things slowly, at her own rate and she may begin to open up to you faster than either of you expect.

alrighty, we talked on the phone today for about 15 - 20 minutes and she basically told me that she goes slow with relationships. So as far as going out with her, that will have to wait a little bit. But as of right now, she likes me a lot and wants to get to know my more. She said "friendship is the key to any relationship" it's good though because she said that she wanted to get to know me more and I'm glad. At least I'm not doing this at the end of the school year like I did with the last girl. Anyways, I'll keep you guys posted.

so a little update, we're starting to become really good friends and we talk some on the phone... any more advice?

Ask her if she spits or swallows...Or, if that doesn't suit you, just keep doing what you're doing. She seems to like how you're acting by yourself.

I dunno dude, I haven't read this entire thread but WHAT the fuck are you waiting for?

Well, I suggest you read the entire thread cause he explains it quite clearly.

yes, i took my time to be very clear. --thanks bobalicious appreciate it.