Obama and hilary both suck

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"...it's a religion. They have a tendency to blow things up. Other groups don't have that tendency. Not Baptists..."If we're going to judge a whole religion by the "tendency" of it's most extreme elements to commit acts of terror, can we then label Protestants as untrustworthy as well. They have a "tendency" to blow up abortion clinics and murder doctors. Further still I've seen 'em celebrate the death of gay individuals that were "living in sin" or rejoice at the death of scientist who dared defend evolution. So, should not all Christians be untrustworthy? Or is it that you know a few Christians that do not believe as those I mentioned and therefore know better than to cast them all in the same mold.

Perhaps the Walrus and the Carpenter would be better anology for this thread.The sun was shining on the sea,Shining with all his might:He did his very best to makeThe billows smooth and bright--And this was odd, because it wasThe middle of the night...."I weep for you," the Walrus said:"I deeply sympathize."With sobs and tears he sorted outThose of the largest size,Holding his pocket-handkerchiefBefore his streaming eyes."O Oysters," said the Carpenter,"You've had a pleasant run!Shall we be trotting home again?'But answer came there none--And this was scarcely odd, becauseThey'd eaten every one.

I got my encheladas put together, so I thought I would just mention...

Hillary can't suck that much....or Bill wouldn't have been out gettin' it else where!

And this was scarcely odd, because
They'd eaten every one.

Sigh...politics!

The Walrus and the Carpenter were always my favorite.>>>"And this was scarcely odd, becauseThey'd eaten every one.Sigh...politics!""The time has come to talk of other things,Of shoes - and ships - sealing waxOf cabbages and kings!""Let us talk of graves and worms and epitaphs... And tell sad stories of the death of kings."There's got to be a good lesson there germane to the thread somehow.

Cider,I appreciate your history lesson and you're correct.I was a little mixed on Germany.BUT,I do not agree with your tax theory. I believe that we need to stop the tax breaks we are giving to the rich and that would increase federal income a great deal.Sigh,whiteboy do you not realize that in the 12th century (I believe) the Christians went on a massive crusade killing massive amounts of Muslims and other non-believers. Every religion has its violence, but it only takes a few to cause a catastrophe like 9/11. Those people were radicals and in no way represent the Muslim community as a whole. Just as the radical abolitionists did not represent the entire Republican party during the civil war.Not trusting Muslims is still a form of discrimination whether it be based on race or religion.

It wasn't a tax theory per se. It was more of a way of distributing the wealth much more evenly instead of taxing people and giving money to the poor, some of which don't even try to get jobs.

Originally Posted By: DxLISHxISx_43HA, I used to pay good money to hallucinate like Alice. shall we compare vacation slides from out last trip?

Fuck an a! I agree 100%.I got a buddy whos muslim, came here from jordan to goto school. liked it so much he stayed, works for the federal government.ended up in NY first, and worked at a liquir store while attending school.Ever talk to a jordan guy with a new york accent?hes a pain in teh ass to understand at first but it doenst take too long to start to catch it and understand it all.He calls everyone mother fuckers, had no idea it meant anything other than hey buddy, because he learned it in NY and originally thought peopel were trying to fight him. Hey muthafucka, give me some of that gold schlagger!Now hes in utah, hell of a good guy, sends half his pay check back to jordan every month for his mother. his brothers a doctor, actually a couple of them are, he still goes to school and hes been her for like 20 years almost. he has a MBA and is working on a doctors, but not in medicine, in addition to that shti he attends an online school just because he wanted to learn some shit, not because it would help him get ahead.He goes out of his way to help me out on odd shit, like he has a bday and he brings me half his cake the next day.."mother fucker I cant eat it all its gonna waste, and you like cake, have osme cake mother fucker!" driving through town he saw me shoveling my moms driveway with 20 inches of snow in it and the snow blower was out of gas, he pulle dover and helped me get it done so she could get her car out of the driveway, even helped cut up and drag off some trees that had fallen at housees next to my moms fo rpeopel he never met before that day.Hes a shining example of how a person should be, great fucking guy. If all muslims are like him, Id be mnroe than happy to have a muslim in the white house.

there is one worry about having a muslim in the white house given the still at large threat of Osama, that would be the radicals going after him there

think the radicals care what the president is? muslim christian,buddist.. they dont, hes an enemy simply because hes an american.

i actually think the radicals would be a little more vicious with someone they deemed a traitor to their religion

ever looked into the quran?the radicals are the traitors, it preaches peace and forgiveness nad to not kill fellow men, especially in the name of allah. Muslims are not bad people, atleast none that I personally know are, in fact I much prefer them to the christians I know.

oh im not saying muslims are bad im saying that the radicals might consider Obama to be a traitor and might be more likely to go after him especially if hes sitting in the White House

I understood what ya meant, Im jsut saying htat the traitors to the muslim faith are the radicals that are using suicide bombers nad and attacking the masses, killing innocents as well as targets to make thier point.a real muslim doenst belive in tha shit and condems it the same as we do. The radicals are the traitors, they are the one ignoring that part of the belief system.

and yes i agree, just saying thats a small little worry if Obama does get into the white house, because not only would he be considered a traitor to them im sure, but he'd be a major figure for them to take another cheap shot at, and shit would get even worse right quick

I figure if hillarys smart shes gonna kiss and make up and be his running mate, he could actually win it all and she would be VP, then when he gets shot at his inaguration, she gets to be pres.
I like obama, Id vote for him right fucking now if it were elections and prefer hiom to hillary, but I cant imagine that even if he does get elected, he would ever be allowed to take teh office. America may just be ready for a black man in the whie house, but I dont think thers a KKK or some other asshole group who isnt strongly opposed enough to allow it if it happened or even a lone nut job who sees himself as saving america cos he kept tha black bastard out of the white house

yuuuup, aint people grand?

Honestly i like obama better, but who ever emerges as the front runner for the dems is who Ill vote for. besides Obama isnt a muslim, was born in the US and does have the ability and charisma to unite enough people to take it, I dont think hillary can do that.

such a sad day now that Edwards is out of the race.it ends the dream of having a white man from the south as president

I didnt like him when he was running for VP with Kerry, I sure as fuck would not of voted for him for pres, I also however would not of voted republican, no matter who tiher canidate ended up being.