Ohio's rules getting out of hand for schools!

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forgive me for not seeing the humour I'm kinda cranky today and this sorta not helped loland how rude would I be if I put in my sig "Atheists are about as stupid as their monkey counterparts"?

I'd be offended! My counterparts are apes, not monkeys. Now if you said "Atheists are as stupid as their ape counterparts" then I'd actually agree with you.

Those Silver Back gorillas are teh shit >.<And Japan, I was actually laughing at his quote. Though, the sig is funny. There was a douglas adams quote that went "I hoped and prayed I would be saved, then I realized the contradiction and merely hoped."

Oh, I'd love to have a Bonobo. Apparently they're quite the sexual deviants! It'd be like having a hairy Mini-Me!

I thought you were a Bonobo

No, I'm the next best thing, a Bobbo.

Can I keep you in a cage and feed you fruit?

Definately! Just the thought of it is making me Homo Erectus.

Personally, I thought there should have been one named Homo Orgasmus, but that's just me.

Next they will be saying that black people wont be able to go to those schools, or women, or gays.

Being Religist (made up no dout but you know what i mean ;)) is no different from being sexist, rasist or homophobic.

By forcing religious messages on people who do not beleive what is being said in this day and age is disgusting and a true step back. The 21st century should be about acceptance of others beliefs and the like. This is not the way forward, its almost sick. Sorry.

Exactly. If Pat Robertson, or Jerry Falwell (may he burn in Hell) had ran the school systems, that's how it would be! Women would be better off in the kitchen, the men in school, the minorities god only knows where if they ran it, and if you were gay they'd shoot you on the spot. Religious fanatics ruin religion, and yet, the fanatics always have the bigger podium, and that is why religion scares the hell out of me. And the Minute you let any ounce of the fanatics, or their message in schools is the minute you give up another right as a person, not that you guys didn't do that already with the elections in 2004 and 2006.

Originally Posted By: Java_AddictAnd the Minute you let any ounce of the fanatics, or their message in schools is the minute you give up another right as a person, not that you guys didn't do that already with the elections in 2004 and 2006. WOOOOW!

Originally Posted By: MaxNext they will be saying that black people wont be able to go to those schools, or women, or gays.Being Religist (made up no dout but you know what i mean ;)) is no different from being sexist, rasist or homophobic.By forcing religious messages on people who do not beleive what is being said in this day and age is disgusting and a true step back. The 21st century should be about acceptance of others beliefs and the like. This is not the way forward, its almost sick. Sorry. Thats prepostrous. Its not a step back if you never took a step forward from that point. Anyway do you really think you and I live in a religiousist state for having an official state church and a references to God all over our state formalities? Of course not. Stop worrying about the form of things and worry about the spirit. America does have a religiousist problem, by having politicians that are openly religiousist, using their power to further the aims of the christian religioun over secular considerations. THAT is Americas problem, a state motto is not.We on the other hand do not have a problem. We dont live under the threat of religious tyranny. Damn, those yankees must think we're one horribly oppressed bunch to have a national anthem like "God Save The Queen", and a church and faith the state recognises as surpreme. But funnily, we have no problem (it cant be mentioned enough that in form we are among the least secular governments in the western world, yet in practise among the most secular on the globe). Its the spirit of a nation and its politics that count, not the form.

Originally Posted By: Java_AddictReligious fanatics ruin religion, and yet, the fanatics always have the bigger podium, and that is why religion scares the hell out of me. Purely as an aside to satisfy my curiousity, whats the point in believing in something if you wont stand to your convictions?

What's the point in believing in Fairy tales that are potentially harmfull?

Answering a question with a question is rude ;pNow common, what constitiutes a fairytale is very debatable, and liberal-secular beliefs can produce the same illogical and tyrannical results as religion. Indeed I doubt very much that your beliefs dont require at least some faith, aswell as outright knowledge.

Originally Posted By: damienAs for "separation of church and state", I don't think I need to point out that this phrase in nowhere in the constitution. Anywhere. Or in the bill of rights. The only thing our constitution attempted to do was protect the church from the state, not the other way around. Yes, in this day and age I'm afraid it does need to be pointed it out...and on a regular basis.Quote:It's a nice little phrase Jefferson wrote that people picked up on and now it's tossed around like it's law. It ain't.But that doesn't stop athiests from latching on to it and trying to use it to force their beliefs down other peoples throats...or at least gag them. So much for respect for others freedom of speach.Face it...this country was started by a group of Christians. If that fact bothers some folks, they can always move to another country where they can experience what it truly feels like to have something rammed down their throats. We must all guard our freedom or speach...because if it gets taken away from only one of us, it will eventually happen to all of us.

Quote:Face it...this country was started by a group of Christians. If that fact bothers some folks, they can always move to another countryOn land that was stolen from Indians, not very Christian if you ask me.OK, so its a Christian country, lets just kick out all the Jews and the Muslims and the Atheists and send them elsewhere, would that be better? Things would definately be a little more equal, everyone would have all the same ideals and beliefs, right?

To Thor: Who gives a fuck who started it? Change is the essence of what America was supposed to be, and you, my friend, are ignorant beyond belief to answer. To StrapingYoungLad:Quote:Indeed I doubt very much that your beliefs dont require at least some faith, aswell as outright knowledge. My beliefs are that it's stupid and ignorant to claim you know with out reasonable doubt things that are FAR beyond your ability to know, and that it's stupid to believe what any other human, who's brain is no larger then yours, if he tells you he knows what happens when you die. And anything that you can swap with a mother goose book, and not tell the difference about when you're 5, is a fairy tale.Starting with that Jonah lived in a whale.

>>>"Face it...this country was started by a group**(s)** of Christians." bold by OldFolks

...and agnostics, and deist, and those of unknown faith who all had a deep mistrust of each other. The Quakers didn't trust the Southern Baptist, the Southern Baptist didn't trust the Catholics, The Catholics didn't trust the Episcopalians, the Episcopalians didn't trust the Deist. All of these faiths shared one commonality more than any other, that was the fear that one faith would take over the government and they would be forced to follow the doctrine of another sect. For a few groups that was the very reason they fled their homelands.

An interesting irony of history is that early in the process it was the Southern Baptist who were the most vocal about taking government out of the realm of religion, do to their fear the Catholics would take over and make them pay homage to Rome, even though there were only three self proclaimed Catholics among the framers. At least that is what I was taught at a secular university and have since read elsewhere.

It has only been in the past 20 to 30 years that the religious climate has so changed that now different sect of religion no longer fear one another... at least until one finally gains the upper hand. Remember the fear of Vatican influence when Kennedy was elected or even the quiet questions now about Mitt Romney and the secretive Mormons.