Need to say..then i'll go..

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Damien actually got attacked partially because he tried to stick up for me after I was being wrongly accused for a simple sentence. which that person would not let go, for some reason. so it's kind of my fault in a way.

My biggest criticism of therapy training and practice is that all too often it's based on a standard textbook approach which fails to take into enough consideration how different individuals are. I've experienced it myself as client and heard it repeatedly from people who are clients of various therapists. I also see it in your own belief that because you have suffered abuse you understand it in others, without considering how differently it may impact on different personalities.I'm not impressed with the profession, and I believe that my own impressions are backed up by studies of the effectiveness of talking therapy that have shown that most of it is no more effective than talking to friends (though finding them is proving to be a difficult search). I think society has placed too high a pedestal under a profession that claims to treat almost any mental trauma, with so little basis. The behavioural approach that you seem to favour has a particularly poor reputation.

ok, I am not really replying to A.W. but whatever, this is to everybody, every single one of you are making me sick right now, I always thought you guy's were accepting of everybody, regardless, and fairly forgiving, Damien, i understand what you were trying to do, it didnt work. Abi, i dont think your a racist, just made a slip, whatever, Rad, let it go, give her a break. Why the hell are we at each others throats? is it National "Shit in a random persons cornflakes" day? Now you can say I am just ignorant of the issues here because i have no idea about Calebs past, becasue I dont know what remark Abi said, I dont know what Damien said, but you know what? I have read countless posts by everyone of them and there is no reason for this, Damien screwed up as far as I can see (not saying you didnt have good intentions, but as they say "The road to hell is paved with good intentions") so go ahead and blast me for not knowing what the hell I'm talking about and oversimplifying a complex issue, thats just how i figure things out, make it simple, find a solution. Guy's what good can come of tearing each other apart here? And that is Lukes 2 cents for what its worth.

Originally Posted By: JapanFan14
so it's kind of my fault in a way.
Nothing was your fault Abi! You shouldn't feel that way.

You're right, Luke, and I apologise for losing my temper.

>>>"...sounds harsh...but he is a Therapist who spends day in and day out with this kind of thing...maybe he knows what he's doing."

Take a step back and read what you wrote from another vantage point, it went further than being "harsh". It read insulting. There is a big difference.

As for doing something "day in and day out" it's been my observation, and experience, that doesn't always refine anybodies skills. Quite the contrary, it often dulls them and makes them apathetic to different circumstances and situations that generally fall within their normal purview. It is generally only when we step away from our everyday endeavors that we see our mistakes and solutions to them.

Quote:So, yeah, I am the professional. I am the therapist. I am the one who deals with this kind of thing day in and day out. So instead of all you non-Therapist folks who don't deal with this on a daily basis harping on me and saying "how utterly unprofessional and un-therapist like, Damien. Guess what...I am a professional too. It's called 'Mother'. And if one of my children were hurting I would never, never, never tell them to put thier "big boy panties on and be a man". Clearly, I am too upset to be posting here today. And I'm sorry, I understand I don't know anyone here personally, but I can't help but think of Caleb as one of my kids or something.

Originally Posted By: RadecklIt was your fault.And, you were racist in your comments.And, furthermore, I think you were more angry at Bob than me, but were afraid to take it out on him.For clarity reasons, and in no attempt to bring back this argument, but what was said? You may have noticed my lack of involvement in this and thats purely because I actually don't have a clue whats going on! I remember seeing what Damien wrote, it was mean in my opinion but of course he has the right to say it. But what is this stuff involving Abi? I honestly don't have a clue what is going on about that.

And what did you say?

OK, well that explains this: Quote:Damien actually got attacked partially because he tried to stick up for me after I was being wrongly accused for a simple sentence. which that person would not let go, for some reason. so it's kind of my fault in a way. I said it before and I'll say it again, I wasn't attacking Abi, I was attacking the argument. Some people just shouldn't involve themselves in debates if they take everything so personally.

It doesn't answer the attack on Caleb for writing what he was feeling at the time, but I digress.

Yup yup, thanks for the catchup.

Originally Posted By: Radeckl but, in my opinion, that incident fell short of his degree.I think more than that, as we all sometimes do, he fell short of his humanity.

this is CR125... (i couldn;t log in.. i changed my password)I’m only came back to say bye..To say I’m leaving with no bad feelings or ..wutever... against anyone. @ damion.. I’ll put on my underwear (panties are for girls) and be a man and say yea I know I have made stupid mistakes. I’ll also point out most every single person on this forum has too. Maybe some things u said were right but other things you said about me wasn’t. I don’t care. I said something dumb in the abortion thread.. I still fill the same way. I regret posting it. @ pink.. 1. I know u and some one else talked about me.. So don’t even start. 2. (and yes I’m being childish…) you were the one attacking me with your little one liner comments and PMing me them. (deny it all u want. I don’t care) I’m not leaving because of this… I’m leaving because (as damion so nicely pointed out) I’m not helping anyone. I’d appreciate it if you all would just stop now and go on about your reading / posting… p.s. this is NOT Abi, Radeckl, or Bob’s fault… it’s all on me. (another reason I’m saying bye)

well, i think i speak for most everyone here when i say, You will be missed and you are welcome back any time.

Originally Posted By: THISisCRI’m not leaving because of this… I’m leaving because (as damion so nicely pointed out) I’m not helping anyone.You misunderstand. I don't recall Damion saying that you don't help anyone. He meant the exact opposite.Either way, don't leave.

I wish you wouldn't do this. Screw 'em. You do help others..I'm sure. Just becasue they don't like something you said is no reason to leave. I say things poeple don't like... I could care less.

I'm glad you're still here...I hope you're still here.
I don't feel the need to respond to anyone but you...which begs the question, why not in private. Maybe I want people to see I'm not a heartless bastard who hates you. Quite the opposite.

Anyway...You've done far more than put your big-boy boxers on. You've been a trooper in ways that most people here will never understand. I'm not unaware of that at all. My post - the one that started all this needless drivel - was directed at a specific behavior, not at you in general. Others missed that. I pray you didn't. I'm sorry if you misunderstood what I was getting at. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear TO YOU. Although, from your reply, you seem less offended by me than others.

All I can say is that, given what you've overcome and the battles you've won (and are winning), I don't doubt that you will continue to grow and heal and reveal more of the good that is there, feeling less and less need to react in ways that turn people off.

I could give a rip what others think about me. Honestly. I know who I am and what I am and the good I do.

I care greatly what you're thinking and feeling right now, and the impact this mess is having on you.

Stick around. I think you're actually benefitting from this in ways you may not even see.

wooooowwwww radeckilious! I swear you're like 2 years old. If you're so concerned about YOUR FRIEND CALEB why do you keep mentioning me?for your daggone information YOU are the one coming after me over a stupid friggin comment I made to Caleb which he DID NOT take to heart. YOU are the one who took everything so daggone seriously. I find it absolutely HILARIOUS that you are calling me a friggin RACIST? because I called you MASSA? get the heck over it! I was PISSED! Which I am right now and I am NOT having a good day. I have enough issues with my family to worry about. I do not need birdheads like yourself jumping on me because I hurt your daggone feelings. how many times do I need to say get over it! check yourself because I am NOT the one, boo. And whether you want to admit it or not you HAVE a problem with me. You DON'T like me. My reaction: I don't care. I don't please everybody. And I sure as heck don't need to please you. and bob, for the last time, I did not take it personally. I already explained before I don't know why I have to keep repeating myself. CALEBIES!: I really wish you wouldn't leave unless you feel it's what you want to do. We'll miss you, I know I will. I enjoy our little conversations despite how random they may be. And you've helped me, some ways you don't even know of. If you feel like you have too much on your mind, get away, take a break. That's what I try to do. Especially now with all the crap going on in my family and these threats we keep receiving but, just have to stay strong. So you stay strong too ok. Difficult situations and phases like this will pass. And the aftermath is even better than before because you feel so relieved. Love ya.

I bet you are.