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Originally Posted By: LuvMyCatsI disagree. He was showing/talking about the marriage bed and concepts of marriage, not that "he's okay with gays, but not the icky sex part." that you said. He was stating different things.And who knows, maybe he's also "busy at work and has a headache." I went back and read and re-read and still have no clue what you are talking about. I was talking about the same thing Thor was talking about...?? Anyways.. not important. shrug

Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyselfWe talked about Civil Unions before. If the government would have offered Civil Unions, instead of also denying that at one time, I would bet the majority of the GLBT community would have accepted it.Yes, we've talked about it before. And we've also talked about how the activists refuse to allow the possibility to be considered...they are determining your fate and that of others for you and those like you, who would be happy with a civil union. Yet you do nothing to stop them and make your voice heard. Why? Quote:...God will have the Ultimate decision.My point all along is that God has already made His decision...and told us what it is.

Quote: BTW, Christians are NOT about tolerance...they are about acceptance. Remember that. Maybe thats what you are about, Thor... but don't claim thats what all us Christians are about. But I can understand why you like to think that way Thor, it lets you feel good about yourself when denying those different than you equality.

Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyselfBut I can understand why you like to think that way Thor, it lets you feel good about yourself when denying those different than you equality. By definition, it is not possible for something, or somebody, who is different to be equal. As for equal rights, you already have them.

Quote:Yes, we've talked about it before. And we've also talked about how the activists refuse to allow the possibility to be considered...they are determining your fate and that of others for you and those like you, who would be happy with a civil union. Yet you do nothing to stop them and make your voice heard. Why? First off, I debunked that as false. Go back to the other thread about this very topic. Civil Unions were fought for for a long time and we were eventually denied Civil Unions. Again, you are talking about a subject you know little about, and continue to disregard the facts when given to you.  Quote: My point all along is that God has already made His decision...and told us what it is. And there have been many decisions that God has made that people to this day ignore, but everyone seems to be okay with that. DOowe really need to go back into Leviticus?

Originally Posted By: thor Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyselfBut I can understand why you like to think that way Thor, it lets you feel good about yourself when denying those different than you equality. By definition, it is not possible for something, or somebody, who is different to be equal. As for equal rights, you already have them. You just don't listen Thor, it’s a freakin waste of breath with you because no matter what we say to debunk your ridiculous "You have equal rights" claim, you ignore it. You know damn straight that allowing Same-Sex Marriage would not give special rights to homosexuals. Straight men/women could marry each other if they so wished... thus everything is still equal. What aren't you getting about that?? Regardless, that whole concept it just ridiculous to the point of laughable.

Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyself

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BTW, Christians are NOT about tolerance...they are about acceptance. Remember that.

Maybe thats what you are about, Thor... but don't claim thats what all us Christians are about. But I can understand why you like to think that way Thor, it lets you feel good about yourself when denying those different than you equality.
actually, that statement is probably accurate, even if thor doesn't seem to practice much tolerance nor acceptance.

it's a pet peeve of mine (yes, ANOTHER one) that the word tolerance is generally misused and misunderstood. To tolerate something is to allow it to be though you know it's wrong.

it is a waste of time, just like with so many other people, but its still so much fun to be naughty and refute him!If i had the time Id lay out a tirade, but business calls, I got shit to finalize to cater a hemp festival, make money and support something I believe in!Do not let this thread die! I will return, maybe by monday, and i got so much to cry about! if this dies, I may well forget monday morning when I have the time to bitch.

Rad, its nothing but a waste of breath. Thor is stuck on "Me Me Me" mode and certainly has shown he doesn't give a flying care about anyone else and how things affect other people. Until he can be less selfish and open his mind just a fraction, he'll never understand.On a side note and not directed to anyone..I still don't understand why religion should be allowed to influence Government, and what makes the Christian Church feel it should have full influence? With a country like American we have a country extremely diverse in not just culture but also Religion. Why don’t the Buddhists get a fair share of influence of the Government? Or what about any of the other sectors of religion that makes up America? Why should any one religion have so much influence over a Nation with diverse religious beliefs? As a Christian, I don’t think any religion should have the kind of influence in Government. My beliefs shouldn’t be pressed on people of other beliefs and/or cultures. Who am I to say my religion is better than those I share a country with? It’s something I guess I’ll never understand.

Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyself Quote:Yes, we've talked about it before. And we've also talked about how the activists refuse to allow the possibility to be considered...they are determining your fate and that of others for you and those like you, who would be happy with a civil union. Yet you do nothing to stop them and make your voice heard. Why? First off, I debunked that as false. Go back to the other thread about this very topic. Civil Unions were fought for for a long time and we were eventually denied Civil Unions. Again, you are talking about a subject you know little about, and continue to disregard the facts when given to you.Please just answer the question.  Quote: Quote: My point all along is that God has already made His decision...and told us what it is. And there have been many decisions that God has made that people to this day ignore, but everyone seems to be okay with that. DOowe really need to go back into Leviticus? No need to when we're finding it's in the NT as well.

Originally Posted By: Rad Originally Posted By: thor Originally Posted By: Rad Originally Posted By: thor Originally Posted By: Rad Originally Posted By: thor Originally Posted By: RadIf I should come around, Thor, would you offer me your daughter for the night?The Bible says you should. Food and a bed, yes...so happens I have both to give. But my daughter? Aside from the fact she's only 2, I know of noplace in the Bible where it says as you suggest. Perhaps you could point it out and we could discuss? Did Lot not offer his daughter's to the citizens of Sodom to use as they wished?For that matter, did Lot's daughters not sleep with their father in order to bear children? You're taking the whole thing out of context. Let me tell you what happened...since you don't seem all that interested in finding it out for yourself.Some strangers/visiters were staying with Lot at the time. Now, for a Christian, visiters are special...they are to be treated as Christ himself. There are passages to support this...that you can find for yourself if you care to. Some of the men from the town (Sodom) came to Lots house and demanded to have the visitors for purposes of...well, you should know by now if you've been following this thread. If not...sex with Lot's male visiters it what they had in mind. So Lot found himself in a predicament and was being forced to choose between the lesser of two evils. And the customs, being what they were at the time, if any of the townsfolk "deflowered" his daughters they would have to marry them. All things considered, Lot offered up his daughters in place of his male visiters. Perhaps now you can understand why, and that your presumption about offering up your daughters to strangers is taken way out of context. BTW, all of the above is found in the Bible. Much from the Bible is taken way out of context.Much in the Bible is ignored when convenient and stressed when convenient.The offering of your daughter for the night will be one ignored, I hope, and I hope the sleeping with them, but you don't hesitate to stress the presumed sin of homosexuality that you like to read into that story, which many Biblical scholars state had nothing to do with male/male sex anyway. I took nothing out of context and ignored nothing. It's highly unlikely that a group of men is going to knock on my door and demand to have gay sex with my male guests and threaten me if I refuse...asumming I have any male guests at the time. If it ever did happen, I have an option Lot did not. I'll put a 9mm in their faces...as I believe in protecting my own. I'm quite certain Lot would have done something similar if he had had that option.If you decide to accept Christ and the Bible, you need ignore nothing. That's what YOU say.What makes YOU sole source authority on this matter?Nothing. But when I've got to explain to you one of the more basic and well-known stories of the Bible after you've buggered it all up (intentionally or not), you'll have to forgive me if I'm not very interested in accepting your interpretations over mine. Disagree? Fine...disagree all night and day, if you like.

Quote:Yet you do nothing to stop them and make your voice heard. Why? Who is to say I haven't done anything? Also keep in mind I am not a die hard activist either. I have been asked by several different organizations to be part of their activist team and even be a speaker at events, but I have turned them down. Not because I don’t believe in the cause (obviously I do), but lets be honest I can get TOO passionate. There comes a point where too much passion can hurt a cause. But I still donate money and support where/when I can. Trust me though, once the fight hits in my home town... and it will eventually… I will be on the front line.Now with that said.. I still proved to you in another thread that we did at one time fight for Civil Unions and were rejected. So, now you can let that go. Again, if conservatives (and some liberals) weren't selfish and allowed Civil Unions we might not be having this debate today.

Men were not built to give birth... but you should! All of you should take on the labor and pain of ovulating, menopause, and push a human being out of your vajayjay!Sorry... random thoughI was sitting through a lecture about Gender and Sexuality and we were discussing when people are born with both a penis and vagina and the doctors rudely take it upon themselves to make the decision to remove either one. Which eventually leads to massive confusion when the child becomes an adult with estrogen but a penis or testosterone but a vagina... shouldn't that be illegal? Are they allowed to totally mess up someone's life like that?

Originally Posted By: JapanFan14Men were not built to give birth... but you should! All of you should take on the labor and pain of ovulating, menopause, and push a human being out of your vajayjay! Why wish something bad on somebody else just because of their gender? Anyway, most women who've had both babies and kidney stones say the kidney stones are worse. I've had six...call me when you've had six of either.

Actually I was kidding...Crazy that you're comparing child birth to kidney stones. At least with kidney stones you can take medicine to dissolve them... I don't think you can dissolve a baby...

I don't know if they can make gender assignment illegal but there is much discussion about it being unethical. It seems to make more sense in the long run to let someone make that decision for his/her self. Yes, there will be some stigma during childhood but that's only a fraction of a human's entire life.

Originally Posted By: JapanFan14 the doctors rudely take it upon themselves to make the decision to remove either one. I think in the past they used to make the decision on what would be easier. Nowadays, they try to base the decision whether the child is indeed genetically a male or female.

You seem to let the media brainwash you more than you know.Either way, as it's been stated, it's a waste of time now, and I'm done.deek: It was an interesting discussion when it started, but it turned into the same thing, like it always does, and wandered away from topic.

Originally Posted By: JapanFan14 I don't think you can dissolve a baby... I think thats called an abortion.

Thor, if i put on a wig and a hot little mini skirt can we have wild kinky sex??