I AM BEING MOLESTED BY HOMOSEXUALS!

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Quote:I really, really hope you get raped violently so you can see how it feels to be helpless and violated. Anyone who was truly raped would never wish it on another person.Secondly you weren't helpless, you could have turned around and told the guy to get the fuck away. You could have pushed him right there, instead of doing it in a way where he was defenseless.

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Why did I ever think anyone here would be on my side anyways?

Did you really expect people to be on your side when what you did was completely wrong? If you felt the need to fight the guy for what he did fine whatever I think its childish but do what you gotta do. But to have a friend help you beat his ass, is wrong. Not to mention you jumoed the guy, which is just chicken shit. Be a man and fight on even ground.

Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyself  Quote: Were the guys who beat Joe Pesci in Casino with baseball bats in a rural cornfield pussies just because they outnumbered him? Yes, they were pussies too. Anyone that feel they have to have more than themselves to jump one person is a pussy. Nothing wrong with having friends there incase something goes horrible bad, but to have them jump in is being a pussy.  Quote:Well of course to a bystander it looks like he was the victim. In the heat of the moment I really couldn't explain to the crowd that it was okay because he raped me first. He was the victim. He was drunk and did something stupid. He didn't assult you or rape you like you keep insisting. But on the other hand you DID assault him.Just to be clear, I am not condoming his actions either. I would have been just as annoyed if someone did that to me, but it never gives anyone the right to jump a person.  Quote: I ran without looking back though, can you blame me, do you want to be tackled, stun-gunned and pinned with your arms behind your back? Nope I wouldn't want that either but thats also why I don't jump people for stupid reasons (Or at all really). I think deep down (if this truly happened) you know you were wrong, but you have to try and put up this "bad ass" front. You were wrong, accept it and move on. And why you are at it, accept the fact you were not rape or molested. At most you were the victim of some stupid straight guy who had too much to drink and you just happened to be at the right place at the wrong time. A mob hit often necessitates having a crew of at least 4. First off, digging a hole deep enough for a body can be a pain in the ass all by yourself so it helps to have friends there. This guy was no "victim," he made a decision to make unwanted sexual contact with me. He had a choice. Furthermore, he was confronted and given the option to apologize but instead he got very close to my friend, like he was about to kiss him even, this is what enraged my friend to want to kick his ass. He also taunted him saying "i can dry hump the shit out of this kid all I want." Right then and there he signed his death warrant, I would have happily killed him with no remorse if it was a deserted area.

Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyself  Quote: Why did I ever think anyone here would be on my side anyways? Did you really expect people to be on your side when what you did was completely wrong? If you felt the need to fight the guy for what he did fine whatever I think its childish but do what you gotta do. But to have a friend help you beat his ass, is wrong. Not to mention you jumoed the guy, which is just chicken shit. Be a man and fight on even ground. My friend didn't help me, I helped him even though he really didn't need my help. In reality it was his fight since like I said the guy got in his face uncomfortably close. I have said this probably 10 times if you can fucking read. Everything you say is fallacious.

Can we go back to my original question. What am I doing to bring unwanted attention? How can I avoid this from happening? Why does it happen to me disproportionate times? Why does it never happen to my friends? Should I just give up on going to the bars?

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Furthermore, he was confronted and given the option to apologize but instead he got very close to my friend

And how many drunken men are going to let another guy tell him what to do. His reaction is not surprising to me, if anything it was expected.

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like he was about to kiss him even

Again trying to turn something sexual when it wasn't there. When people are drunk they often get too close to people when they talk, let alone when there is a possibility of confrontation.

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He also taunted him saying "i can dry hump the shit out of this kid all I want."

You said it correctly, it was a taunt. He didn't mean what he said or even truly meant he wanted to hump you. It was to get under your friends skin and to piss him off even more. Again, typical drunk idiot.

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I would have happily killed him with no remorse if it was a deserted area.

If thats truly how you feel, that you can take a human life because the guy was a drunken idiot, than you need to get some psychological help. And I am serious about that, not joking or being silly. Get help before you actually kill someone and find out how many "connections" you truly don't have.

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Everything you say is fallacious

Regardless of how you word it, you BOTH beat the guy up. Whether your friend started it or you started it... you BOTH beat him up. Making you both pussies.

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What am I doing to bring unwanted attention?

You are most likely doing nothing wrong, in my opinion you just got unlucky as well as reading too much into other people's actions. Just because someone touches your shoulder does not mean they are making a sexual advance. And let's say they were advances, tell them no thanks you are straight and they'll leave you alone.

Quote:Everything you say is fallacious ooo, fallacious, that's a big word. You like a big fallacy in your mouthyou're not even a good troll, stop wasting your time.

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_I would have happily killed him with no remorse if it was a deserted area. _

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If thats truly how you feel, that you can take a human life because the guy was a drunken idiot, than you need to get some psychological help. And I am serious about that, not joking or being silly. Get help before you actually kill someone and find out how many "connections" you truly don't have.

Ok so I probably would not ever kill anyone but I'm just saying those things because of how much this pisses me off and that it happens in front of my friends and other people which is really embarrassing. Maybe you just don't understand that when your friends and everyone else see you get dry-humped you have to react in this way or else you look like a bitch.

You don't have to react in any way. A simple "Knock the shit off" or just laughed it off and call the guy a drunk idiot would have been more beneficial not to mention would have shown your maturity.Jumping a guy with 2 to 1 odds does nothing to benefit your character.

Unsupervised...I have to agree with you. TROLL. You came on to this site posting a very long rant about not wanting to be gay. You were explained to that it wasn't a choice and that maybe you were just curious. You went on to say that it was perverted and that gay men were sexual deviants. You were repremanded of course because this a forum where we accept those lifestyles. You got angry, defensive, and said more rude offensive things. You then said you didn't understand why you were even on the site. After your fruitless attempts of convincing anyone that gay men are terrible, perverted, rapists, you then write another post that has again angered many of the members. You are getting honest outllooks on the situation but you refuse to listen to it. You act as though these people are angering you by what you're saying but continue to post responses. You know that you aren't going to convince anyone, just like last time. So either you are just fucking with us, you are really this narrowminded, or you are trying to convince yourself. It is hard to believe you are a real person. Yes, there are people like you, but none that would argue this long about something that no one agrees with you on. It's hard to fathom that any of this is true. But let's say it is true. No one here wants to offend you. Everyone is simply giving their outlook. You are the picking fights. SO, A. Under law, what you experienced was not rape or sexual assault. Look up the laws. B. To convict someone of murder, motive is not required, only malice aforethought. You and your buddy planned to go beat up this man because you were angry. Had you killed him, you could technically be charged with murder. Many states do not change sentencing based on intoxication. C. Men touch and rub women they do not know it bars all of the time. It isn't sexual assault. D. If you were to hit on a gay woman, would you think it just if she beat your ass?E. If you find yourself so unappealing, then why are people hitting on you?F. You need a lesson in current social structure. It would be a major mistake to assume everyone is straight. Gay men and women are on the rise. G. There are no straight or gay bars. And one is allowed to hit on whomever they please (unless they are underage if course). It's every humans' right. H. There are no gay signals unless you make them that way. Most of my gay friends are quite normal. They get hit on by girls and are not defined by their sexuality. Not all lesbians are butches. Not all gay men paint their toenails and talk with a lisp. That's a sterotype that you need to push out of your head. I. If you are messing with this forum, leave. There are people here truly trying to find answers. We want to help. But you have to be willing to admit you're wrong sometimes.

Quote: A. Under law, what you experienced was not rape or sexual assault. Look up the laws. Ok yeah, that's a gross exaggeration but it's disgusting, degrading, and ruins my night. Quote: To convict someone of murder, motive is not required, only malice aforethought. You and your buddy planned to go beat up this man because you were angry. Had you killed him, you could technically be charged with murder. Many states do not change sentencing based on intoxication. In that case, yes it's premeditated murder. But let's say I was standing somewhere, a guy humps me, and I go into uncontrollable rage and kill him. That's the same thing as if I went into my bedroom, saw a man with my wife and shot them both without thinking. Those are things that would cause a reasonable minded person to commit an act of violence. It still isn't excusable but it makes it voluntary manslaughter.  Quote:Men touch and rub women they do not know it bars all of the time. It isn't sexual assault. Yes, but women dance seductively effectively inviting a guy to grind up on them. I was standing outside minding my own business and was humped by a piece of shit. Quote:If you were to hit on a gay woman, would you think it just if she beat your ass? Well since real lesbians often are 300 lbs, wear a flannel button down, boots, and have crew cuts I probably wouldn't want to hit on her. Quote: If you find yourself so unappealing, then why are people hitting on you? It's guys who hit on me not girls and I figure gay men have no standards or something. I mean they give hand jobs to strange truckers at rest stops after all. Quote: You need a lesson in current social structure. It would be a major mistake to assume everyone is straight. Gay men and women are on the rise. Yeah well not everyone is gay either. Gays should be careful when they try and do the courtship routine, they cannot follow the same tactics that straight people do because homosexuality is still not accepted everywhere and they should keep their activities covert and to themselves. Quote: here are no straight or gay bars. And one is allowed to hit on whomever they please (unless they are underage if course). It's every humans' right. If a guy wants to hit on guys he needs to go to a gay bar, unless you are in San Fransisco or Brazil or somewhere really gay it is NOT ACCEPTABLE. I should never have to experience an awkward moment on MY territory, if I go on THEIR territory I'm fair game and I have no right to complain. Like I said before, they're just putting themselves in danger, not from me but in general. At least the bars I go to have a lot of frat-boy, meat head, douche types who I'm sure would have no problem doing something ALOT worse then what I did to that guy if some homosexual came up trying to sleep with them.It is okay for a man to hit on a woman because men are supposed to go after women and the majority do. For a man to hit on a man he should know beyond a reasonable doubt that he is gay. All men are straight until proven gay. Quote:There are no gay signals unless you make them that way. Most of my gay friends are quite normal. They get hit on by girls and are not defined by their sexuality. Not all lesbians are butches. Not all gay men paint their toenails and talk with a lisp. That's a sterotype that you need to push out of your head. Well I don't know why they're attacking me then, I am the most non-descript person ever. I try to keep attention away from myself in public. Quote: If you are messing with this forum, leave. There are people here truly trying to find answers. I'm not here to troll, if I were I would have had a much better game plan. I just get frustrated with some of you defending behavior that is unacceptable. I am not bashing homosexuality but I do not want to be exposed to it in non-homosexual environments and all of you are saying it's okay for gay homosexual men to go up to guys who they don't know are gay or straight and try to hit on them.

Not sure why I am wasting my time, but I'm bored so what the hell...

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Yes, but women dance seductively effectively inviting a guy to grind up on them.

Yes of course! Women deserve to be sexually assaulted because they are out having fun with the friends dancing. How dare they!

I mean seriously??

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Well since real lesbians often are 300 lbs, wear a flannel button down, boots, and have crew cuts I probably wouldn't want to hit on her.

This whole statement just shows how little you know. My sister is a lesbian and she is thin, wears makeup, has longer hair and is rather pretty. Now yes there are some lesbians that are heavier, with crew cuts, but to make a statement that "real lesbians " (Whatever thats supposed to mean) are all that way is just not even close to true.

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I mean they give hand jobs to strange truckers at rest stops after all.

Yup.. at the local truck stops I'm called Right-hand Randy!!

Okay we seroiusly need a "rolls eyes" smiley face.

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they cannot follow the same tactics that straight people do because homosexuality is still not accepted everywhere and they should keep their activities covert and to themselves.

Its funny you have gone out of your way to bash people who do things in secret or "covert" but than you tell us thats how we have to act. Pick one way or the other, you cannot have both.

Secondly, we have every right to court people how we see fit.. just as any other American citizen. As long as we are not hurting anyone, why should you even care?

(And before you even go there, the guy who "humped" you was not trying to court you, he was being a drunk idiot. So you cannot even say this guy was trying to court you and he hurt you.)

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I am not bashing homosexuality

Wow really? The majority of your posts are dedicated to bashing homosexuals. So if thats not your intentions you have a very sad way of showing it.

Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyselfYup.. at the local truck stops I'm called Right-hand Randy!! Don't leave me with gem like that you'll never hear the end of it.

Why are you still trolling here? Your a douche... but that kinda goes with being a pussy, doesn't it.

Ok, I apologize for the lesbian and truck stop comments. Those were out of line and I admit hurt my argument.BUT get it through your fucking heads, unless a guy is 100%, unquestionably gay it is not okay for a homosexual to try and hit on him, period! What if he isn't gay but thinks that because this happened that's the general impression he gives to everyone? It's selfish for homosexuals to openly operate in heterosexual environments.If a guy wants to meet guys WHY DOESN'T HE FUCKING GO TO A PLACE WHERE AT LEAST 75% OF THE PEOPLE THERE ARE CERTIFIABLY GAY? Quote:Secondly, we have every right to court people how we see fit.. just as any other American citizen. As long as we are not hurting anyone, why should you even care? No, no, no. You're telling me if you just see a guy at a grocery store it's okay for you to go and hit on him regardless of what his sexuality is? Do you do this shit? Is it that difficult to go to a fucking GAY ESTABLISHMENT and do these activities? Come on, every city with at least 20,000 people has probably one gay bar. Can't you fucking go there? Men have sex with women. That makes babies. That sustains humanity and brings upon the next generation. Probably 95% of the population follow this normal pattern. That's why it's okay for a guy to proposition a girl. So basically because it is ok for a homosexual to go up to any guy and try and have sex, by your logic it's okay for a pedophile to go up to a playground looking for little kids because "they have every right to court people how they see fit." Quote: Wow really? The majority of your posts are dedicated to bashing homosexuals. So if thats not your intentions you have a very sad way of showing it. I got no problem with homosexuals who aren't bothering me. But your fucking attitude is that any guy is fair game for you, even in straight environments. I should never ever, ever fucking be in a situation where a guy hits on me unless I put myself in it. I'll say it again: YOU WANT TO FUCKING HIT ON GUYS, GO TO A FUCKING GAY BAR! WHAT IS SO DIFFICULT ABOUT THAT? DOESN'T THAT MAKE IT EASIER ON YOU?You're the god damn troll here, not me.

Ok, and even if I said I thought it was okay for homosexuals to hit on any guy they see....Why would they want to? How efficient is that?According the the 2000 U.S. Census 1% of the population is homosexual. That means if you try and hit on 100 guys in a random sample, only 1 will be gay. And even if he is gay that doesn't mean he's going to accept you.Even hitting on girls that way is ridiculous to be honest. The guys who hit on girls in public places are usually creeps and date rapists. The guys who like to grind with drunk hos in bars as well are idiot douche meat heads who need to be punched in the throat. I'll admit I've tried to hit on random drunk girls on the street while on vacation, it only worked 5 out of 100 attempts and I only had sex with one of them. I'd never do it again though, you look like an idiot and it's a waste of time.Nowadays everyone is wary of strangers and especially after people like Jeffery Dahmer, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy doing shit like that to lure in victims they should be.

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BUT get it through your fucking heads, unless a guy is 100%, unquestionably gay it is not okay for a homosexual to try and hit on him, period!

But you can't always tell someone is gay, actually more often than not you won't be able to. You have this idea that all gay men are easy to detect. Yes there are some that are more feminine, but the majority are your average male.

I see nothing wrong with someone taking the chance and hitting on someone as long as they are aware of the possible consequences. But I think in most cases, a straight guy is not going to attack/hurt a gay person for simply being hit on as long as it's done in a respectful manor. Now if done in a manor that's say, smacking the guy on the butt well than he takes his own risk lol, but that's also inappropriate regardless of genders.

And again in your situation, I strongly feel the guy who dry humped you was not hitting on you... he was just a drunken idiot, and I bet he was also straight.

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If a guy wants to meet guys WHY DOESN'T HE FUCKING GO TO A PLACE WHERE AT LEAST 75% OF THE PEOPLE THERE ARE CERTIFIABLY GAY?

Because not all gay people like gay bars. I personally don't care for them. I'm not saying I never go, but its very rare (matter-of-fact its been nearly 6 months since I've been to a bar). The reason I go there is because that's pretty much the only public place my boyfriend and I can be affectionate without stares and rude comments.

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No, no, no. You're telling me if you just see a guy at a grocery store it's okay for you to go and hit on him regardless of what his sexuality is? Do you do this shit?

Yes I do, because a person does not wear their sexuality on their sleeve so his sexuality is clueless. Also, as I stated above as long as a person does it respectfully and aware of the consequences I see nothing wrong with it. And no, I personally wouldn't do that only because I'm actually pretty shy in person and I admit I like people to make advances towards me lol.

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Is it that difficult to go to a fucking GAY ESTABLISHMENT and do these activities? Come on, every city with at least 20,000 people has probably one gay bar. Can't you fucking go there?

And the majority do, but as I stated above not all gay people like gay bars or are even into the whole bar scene.

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So basically because it is ok for a homosexual to go up to any guy and try and have sex, by your logic it's okay for a pedophile to go up to a playground looking for little kids because "they have every right to court people how they see fit."

You know that's a bullshit statement, so why even make it? That's not even close to what I was saying, so don't even try that with me. I was talking about two adults.

Secondly, just because a gay guy hits on another guy doesn't mean all he is after is sex. Maybe he is genuinely attracted and wants to get to know that person. You focus too much of the sexual side of things instead of the emotional and relationship sides.

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But your fucking attitude is that any guy is fair game for you, even in straight environments. I should never ever, ever fucking be in a situation where a guy hits on me unless I put myself in it.

That is not my "Fucking Attitude", my "Fucking Attitude" is that people in general have the right to talk and get to know people. If it comes to the point where the other party is not interested, then they need to back off... regardless of genders. Again, as long as it's all done respectfully there is no damage.

I honestly think people who are straight should actually feel flattered someone who is gay hits on them, means their "hotness" transcends genders lol.

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You're the god damn troll here, not me.

LoL right.. I'm the troll, you figure me out. But I must be one damn good troll to make it to Moderator. lol

Seriously if all you want here is to cause trouble and stir the pot, please feel free to find another forum because this place is here to help people who have genuine questions. Not to fulfill peoples drama needs.

Very well said Eddie.

Any idea how many girls i hit on that turned out to be gay? what gave me the right to ask them out not knowing if they were carpet munchers or sword swallowers?Honestly, the only one taking a risk is the guy doing the asking.He risks rejection and being beaten or killed over asking someone on a date.Iv had many gay men ask me out, I said no, the ones that persisted pissed me off, One in particular got the ass beating of a life time.I think you must be scared your a queer and thats whats got you so pissy. Do ya want to taste some cock but your ashamed?thats what all of your unfounded anti gay shit points to.Me thinks you doth protest to much!

Did you miss this thread, Chance?