Died..

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Im harsh because its an unecassary death, its a wasted life, a small child died with no real cause because noone bothered to watch a child in a pool. Ther is a million times I could of gone off and done something I wanted to do, takea tour of the house, or what ever the case may have been, when your a parent you lose that option, your not allowed to go do whta you want, the welfare of your child comes first. If they allowed her int eh pool they shuold of taken the tour later, or told her no, wait for a bit, and gone onthe tour then allowed her into the pool after there was a time that allowed them to pay more attention.Its not up to the kid to watch out and keep track of all the kids int eh pool while the poor dead childs parents toured the house. that being said if he acepted responsability to do so he shuld now have his ass kicked for nto watching and allowing this to happen.I see it all summer long onteh news and in the paper, the pool, the kids swept under the rivers and found dead 3 days later at the bopttom in the water tratment plant.None of its needed, they allowed a fucking young precious, not really yet begun life to be shot in the ass. Its the responsability of the parent to watch and protect the child. They failed that child and she died a nasty death.It wasnt cancer, or a car accident or some uncontrolled force that stole her away in the night, it was not caring enough to watch over her that lead to her choking on water, trying to hold her breath till her lungs nearly burst, frantically trying to climb up the water and onto teh side to saftey, all the while screaming in her head for mommy or daddy or anyone to help and save her, she had to confront death all alone, suffer as she either gave up being able to hold her breath and took that gasap that filled her lungs with water or fell unconsious and stopped fighting to nto take in that watery breath.The parents allowed it to happen. Im sure they feel terrible, and heart sick over it but it was something that could of been avoided.It wasnta public pool with life guards where people send theie children to play knwoing a professional is on duty to watch out for them, its a private pool with no lifeguard, and any parent should know that in those circumstances you need to watch out for that child yourself.Im harsh because I see it as a wasted life, an innocent life destoryed by negligence and there was no excuse for allowing it to happen.It not only killed her but ruined the familys lives, there is nothign worse including death or torture of physical means than for a parent to have a child procede them into death. It also ruined the owners pool, they will never swim there again with out thinking of how that child drew her last breath and died while no one watching and what could of been done if only anyone had seen her go under.They now are pissed at thier son as well for chatting up his friends and nto watching the kids. It could of been one of thier kids instead of a friends kid. everyone there is now effected by this happening. Noone gets out of it its touched all of them and I can promise you weights heavy on each head.Im harsh because none of it needed to happen, god didnt call her up, negligence stole her life, simply crept up and blew it out.

Thats because I have a valid point.I do care, Im sickened that a child was stolen from the earth and from her family because of stupidity and nto caring enough to watch out for her, you simply dont give a rats ass about anyone. that is the difference

agreed =/

ok. you act like I don't know that. I've gone through this crap for the PAST 2 WEEKS. I KNOW this. I KNOW her parents were wrong. And I KNOW she should have been watched. you act like I wasn't there inches away watching this little girl lay their lifeless. like I didn't cry my heart out and pray to God to bring her back. and like I didn't watch her mother and her brothers and sisters fall apart. maybe it's the fact that I'm a little spaced out from actually witnessing all this happen and realize that somebody did in fact die in front of me. that's never happened to me before except with my uncle in the hospital. so EXCUSE ME for not seeing it from your friggin perspective. every single human being there wishes they could have reacted better or that they were there at all times. I was on the other side of the house when it happened and I wish I was there just so I could have jumped in as soon as I saw her. But I wasn't, and it happened, and there's nothing I could have done about it. So back off!

You're taking the criticism personally. I really don't think anyone was bitching at you... just the unfortunate incident.

I don't mean to sound rude. honestly I don't. but the belief is not registering yet and I'm not in the mood or the mindest to have people lecturing about shoulda coulda woulda.

Originally Posted By: Java_AddictMore like a pack of mods, 4 of which are active that do really nothing but bitch at people who stick up for someone, or try to help. Or did you guys completely ignore the depression thread?I feel bad that Ineligible and sdp are the only ones that really do anything. And to them, I apologize what this thread turned into Im offended too......just to be a copycat Eddieness lol

What I don't understand is how no one saw her sitting at the bottom of the pool... Was it murky water or something, not an actual chlorinated pool?

no, the person throwing the party. my friend has a huge mansion with a whole lot of property and there were lots of people there. a whole lot. and the pool was pretty big too. I wouldn't know about it since I wasn't there.

WIth a bunch of kids splashing around in the water, it's pretty easy to not see something at teh bottom.

You really dont understand what Im saying.
I do not blame you, you however illistrate what I said last night.
its had a profound effect on you, you had nothing to do with it, it wasnt your fault but its still going to be there for the rest of your life, an incident in your childhood that you will always remember for the negative shit.
As you grow older its te bad shit that stays in your head. In 5 years you wont remember the bullshit in school, youll have to look up formulas to do a math problem, youll need to look up facts for the civil war, but untill you die you will always remember that day.
I feel bad for you abi, I feel worse for the dead child, but it was all pointless, no need for it to ever have happened. and I see it repeat itsself so many times in my corner of the world each summer. and its always the samestory, I went in to answer the phone, I was talking to my buddy, I was jsut swapping clothes inteh washer and dryer,ect.,ect. and when I came back my baby was dead at the bottom of the pool. or he was right here playing in the river and a second later he was gone.
I do not understand why parents dont take care of thier children, why kids have become a comodity instead of something to be cherished. any child being injured let alone killed because of something that could of been avoided with a little bit of common sense and parental dutie makes me sick.
kids locked in trunks of cars that die, babies left in cars in summer while mommy runs in the store and comes out to find them cooked alive, or the car stolen and baby gone.
Im not on your ass, I simply do not think that a real parent would of left thier child in such unsafe conditions with no real supervision. I care too much about my kids, people tell me Im overprotective, but I survived my youth, and its the same thing my parents did with me. I dont hide them form lifes realitys, but I do what I can to avoid stupid thats preventable.

Most people go form the conditioned house, to the conditioned car, to the conditioned office, to the conditioned restaurant, to the conditioned the theater, and back to the conditioned house in the false sense of security that they are safe from the natural elements. As they are no longer exposed to the elements, temperature, water, and fire they forget to see them for the dangers they represent.Further, I don't think most people get that watching the young-uns is a 24/7 job. If mom or dad wants to run to the store then somebody needs to be keeping an eye on the kid. There's a lot of shit that can happen that a kid doesn't know how to react to or have the ability to react to. This modern world seems to have forgotten just how quickly and easily it is to get yourself severely injured or killed. I think most people through simple complacency have lost respect for the nature world and how quickly fire, water, & temperature can kill you. I don't think it's because they're bad people, just that they are so removed from the actual world they live in they have forgotten just how vulnerable their children and they themselves are. Death comes quickly and his favorite victims are the weak and vulnerable. Vigilance must never be lax especially in the face of the, seemingly, mundane.

I understand what your saying and I know not to blame myself. But I know this family, I know the parents and the children. And they all love each other to no end. And I've seen the mother ball out because of a mistake she made and gave her a tragic result. What I don't like is that it's nothing but blame for the parents and no sympathy at all. They already know that, people haven't shut up about that "if dat were ma child I woulda neva left her in da pool". It's all been said and done. Ok, she just lost her little girl can you do something else besides tell her how wrong she was? I'm not trying to jump on you chance, and I know you're just trying to help. But to me, the way you sound right now sounds alot like those rude bums who were murmuring under their breath about how dumb they were for leaving their child alone instead of consoling them and encouraging them. And I absolutely hate when people do that. How the heck are they helping the situation?

Abi, I'm not trying to speak for Chance he's completely capable but I do want to throw in my two cents on your post.For myself, I do find it hard to have to much sympathy for the parents in this case. As I previously said being a parent is full time job... all day, everyday. You have to, have to, be there as best you can always, and if you can't, you have to have some one there, responsible and able to cope, in your stead. Other children can't fill that position. One of the main jobs of a parent is, to the best of their ability, to eliminate laps in adult oversight of immature children incapable of thorough, vigilant and responsible oversight plus being able to cope with whatever emergency may arise.Can a parent be there looking over their kid 24 - 7, no. But, they must realize that every time they let their kid go unattended it's a role of the dice and each time there's a chance they may role snake eyes. And, no, I'm not saying to smother them but you must give Independence as learned and demonstrated responsibility as well as maturity merit it. Even then, child or not there are some activities people should not engage in without someone there to help them should they get into trouble. Just as CR125 illustrated, he got in trouble for swimming in the pond without anyone there to spot him. What if he had hit his head and drowned, what if a snapping turtle got a hold of him, what if a water moccasin had bitten him. Some activities need a spotter and swimming is one of them.Think of it this way, what would you think if the parents had left the children playing around a fire, roasting marshmallows or something and the kid burned to death. Water is no less dangerous, in fact, its probably more so because it's seemingly innocuous. The parents in this case chose to leave the kids in the pool by themselves, from what I read, to show off their house. They took a stupid unnecessary risk and in this case unfortunately rolled snake eyes. I have a hard time feeling sorry for that._________________________________________________________________One other thing, how much they love the kid is not in question and is of no consequence in the face dangerous realities.

And it appears that this girl didn't know how to swim which means that **extra **vigilance was required.

you guys HONESTLY don't have a clue. I'm done. I'm getting nowhere because NONE of you get it. you keep looking at it from this perspective and give politically correct advice and yet you still fail to realize the whole point of what I'm trying to say. so I'm done. and how the heck can you say you " find it hard to have to much sympathy for the parents" are you kidding me? JESUCRISTO! like I said. I'm done.

I really feel for the parents here. But I just wish they could have looked after her better. Parenting is a HUUUGE responsibility (not saying they arent responsible parents). It would have been a lot safer if they were especially cautious because there was a pool there, and she couldnt swim.I'ts sad

Luckily they can't read this

Wow, I guess I am gonna stick my fingers in this boiling pot. I AS a parent, ALWAYS put my kids first. If you have read my posts you will know it is rarely easy.Parents cannot do everything. YET there ARE hazards in this life that we as parents HAVE to guard them from. Water, fire, vehicles, rattle snakes....and the list is long.I have a HUGE difficulty accepting, or feeling too compassionately for a parent who neglected their duty as a parent. This wasn't some car accident during teen years, where letting them go was part of letting the child grow up, and have a bit of independence. This was EASILY preventable. I feel for the parents, as losing a child has got to be one of the most painful experiences life has to offer.The most positive thing I can say from my perspective is that I hope someone learned from this, and another child will live because of this families horrible experience.

Originally Posted By: PepsiChaserI feel for the parents, as losing a child has got to be one of the most painful experiences life has to offer.you're in the minority babez