Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyselfGay people cannot be role-models? Wow... really? Thor... you are so past ignorant that I am not even sure how to respond to such a hateful, ignorant, and distastful comment. A role model has nothing to do about sexuality, it's about how a person conducts themselves in life and how the treat other people. It also has to do with gender. I don't think a gay couple can be good role-models for either a girl or a boy. Men and women's minds work differently...this has been scientifically proven (for those stubborn folks who refuse to accept the blatantly obvious anecdotal evidence because it clashes with their agenda). A gay couple will generate a lot of confusion in the minds of either girl or boy...as the statistics have born out. Quote:You statement just proves you think homosexuals are inferior to heterseoxuals... Your statement is ignorant beyond belief and serves no purpose other than to generate more "victim-oriented" emotional responses from others. It has no other value, and no merit at all. Quote:I want to see these stats Thor... I will look for them. How about you show yours? (No Scotty...we don't want to see yours. ) Quote:And not from one of your bias websites, get a site that’s neutral and not going to distort facts. roflmaoYou will claim any site that disagrees with your opinion to be biased, regardless of their stature or reputation, AND YOU KNOW IT! But I will look anyway.
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Maine Senate Passes Same-sex Marriage Bill
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No no, I know, satire, my friend. And bob, I think thor would like stats from the CDC, because obviously something is wrong and they DIRELY need a vaccine.
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Well when they're from something like :www.onetruth.org: or :www.theholytrinity.net: or something of the sort, something tells me those sites are a bit biased against homosexuality...
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Originally Posted By: thor Originally Posted By: bobalicious Originally Posted By: thorAt first because they desired acceptance...now because they desire validation.Its still about acceptance, since people like you still refuse to accept them. People like me have always accepted them...just like anybody else. What I do NOT accept is the behavior...especially when it's shoved in my face. I'm still waiting for the day when you succeed at finally wrapping your brain around that relatively simple concept. I won't be holding my breath. When is it shoved in your face? When its on the news? When there are gay people foolishly looking for equal treatment in the eyes of the law?And don't worry, I understand your little argument. They have the same rights, they can marry someone of the opposite sex if they wanted. I'm sorry but thats a load of shit. You did not marry your wife simply because she was a woman. You married her because she was/is the person that you love. Why can gay people not do the same?
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Originally Posted By: StephieJThought this debate was OVERRRRRR.Thor, whether you like it or not.. America is moving forward without you!! Im pretty sure Gay Marriage will be legal in ALL states someday Some will move in a new direction...whether you consider it forward or backward I suppose is a matter of perspective. But others, including myself, understand the value of where we, as a society, are at right now. We, none of us, know the full ramifications of where the other folks seeking a detour are headed...some of which will take more time to manifest themselves than we have remaining on this earth. But based on the Bible, it is a wrong direction...and there WILL be a day of judgement. So far, the Bible has been correct at every turn.Given a choice of being left behind and going over a cliff, I'll choose being left behind.
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lol, I know... I think satainists would actually be nicer people
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Quote: But others, including myself, understand the value of where we, as a society, are at right now sooo, yesterday's traditions are as bad as tomorrow's? Quote:So far, the Bible has been correct at every turn. roflmao
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Originally Posted By: unsupervisedlol, I know... I think satainists would actually be nicer people It depends on how much you have in common with them as opposed to somebody like me. Your call.
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Originally Posted By: thor
But based on the Bible, it is a wrong direction...and there WILL be a day of judgement. So far, the Bible has been correct at every turn.
A) [laugh hysterically] The bible isn't an almanac, fool. [/laughing]
B) I doubt that my lord and savior, since it seems I would have to point this out to you, wouldn't much care about gay or straight. I think Bleach had it right...you get absolved for the sins you commit on this plane, but can't be forgiven for sins committed in Heavan/Nirvana/forest of awesomeness, whatever. That was the whole point of Jesus allowing himself to be crucified, he did it for us. He coulda said "Oh heck no!" and ran like a mad-man, but he was cooler than that.
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Quote: Men and women's minds work differently...And in another post you stated gay men think like woman... now which is it Thor? You can't have it both ways to try and make your point. Quote: It also has to do with gender. I don't think a gay couple can be good role-models for either a girl or a boyWhat does a persons sexual orientation or gender have anything to do with being a role-model?? Being a role-model has nothing to do with sexual orientation nor gender. Maybe I need to look up the word Role-Model for you? Quote:A gay couple will generate a lot of confusion in the minds of either girl or boy...as the statistics have born out. Really because what I have read and what Bob has graciously pointed out that is not the case. Plus there is a point where you have to explain to a child why in their family unit there is no mommy or no daddy (Though like my friends they kids ended up asking them before they had a chance). But most of the time kids are just happy they have parents that love them, they could care less about gender, and that's what it's all about. Quote: Your statement is ignorant beyond belief and serves no purpose other than to generate more "victim-oriented" emotional responses from others. Wait? So my statement is ignorant but your statement is golden? Hmm someone is rather high on his horse today. Quote:It has no other value, and no merit at all. Much like the majority of your posts... Quote: You will claim any site that disagrees with your opinion to be biased, regardless of their stature or reputation, AND YOU KNOW IT! But I will look anyway. Actually you are quite wrong, Thor. I am more than a reasonable person. You show me a site that’s nor right not left, and can give factual evidence (not thoughts or opinions), I'll be glad to accept them. But you cite anything by someone like O'Rielly I will laugh and throw it in the trash... well virtual trash so to speak.
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Quote: I'm sorry but thats a load of shit. You did not marry your wife simply because she was a woman. You married her because she was/is the person that you love. Why can gay people not do the same? Bob I have tried to state that every way possible and he just doesn't seem to comprehend it. Sadly it's pretty much a loss cause, though not for lack of trying..
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Originally Posted By: thorBut based on the Bible, it is a wrong direction...and there WILL be a day of judgement. So far, the Bible has been correct at every turn. The Bible says that the world was created in 6 days. WRONGThe Bible says that man was made from dust and woman from a man's rib. WRONGThe Bible says that the Earth was created before the stars. WRONGThe Bible says that the Israelites destroyed Ai and made it a desolate heap. WRONGThe Bible says that Belshazzar was the son of Nebuchadnezzar and was a king of Babylon. WRONGThe Bible says that God promised many times that he would drive out all the inhabitants of the lands the Israelites encountered. WRONGThe Bible says that God said that Solomon's kingdom would last forever. WRONGThe Bible says that, as part of their punishment, God would take the land of the Babylonians and "make it perpetual desolations". WRONG
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Quote: ...and there WILL be a day of judgementAbsolutely! And Thor not you or the Pope, or any other religious figure will be the Judge! So let the lord so his job when the Day of Judgment comes. You have no right to try and pass judgments that you have no authority to make. Just remember, you too will be judged and you will be judged on how you treat you fellow man, and something tells me right now God is not so happy with the way you are treating part a sector of his children.
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Originally Posted By: bobalicious
Originally Posted By: thor
But based on the Bible, it is a wrong direction...and there WILL be a day of judgement. So far, the Bible has been correct at every turn.
The Bible says that the world was created in 6 days. WRONG
The Bible says that man was made from dust and woman from a man's rib. WRONG
The Bible says that the Earth was created before the stars. WRONG
The Bible says that the Israelites destroyed Ai and made it a desolate heap. WRONG
The Bible says that Belshazzar was the son of Nebuchadnezzar and was a king of Babylon. WRONG
The Bible says that God promised many times that he would drive out all the inhabitants of the lands the Israelites encountered. WRONG
The Bible says that God said that Solomon's kingdom would last forever. WRONG
The Bible says that, as part of their punishment, God would take the land of the Babylonians and "make it perpetual desolations". WRONG
...and bob understands how to read the Bible and what it's all about. WRONG
roflmao
Until you can admit to yourself that you do not know, you never will.
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Originally Posted By: thor Originally Posted By: unsupervisedlol, I know... I think satainists would actually be nicer people It depends on how much you have in common with them as opposed to somebody like me. Your call. you have more in common with that poor girl's parents
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Until you can admit to yourself that you do not know, you never will.
Thor, like you have much room to talk? You have commented and stated things in this thread that you know absolutely nothing about, so what makes you any better? Again I will state... Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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Oh, sorry thor, were those particular verses to be taken metaphorically? Please, inform me how those parts of the Bible are actually true.
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Originally Posted By: bobaliciousPlease, inform me how those parts of the Bible are actually true. Liberal spin.
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Originally Posted By: unsupervised
Originally Posted By: thor
Originally Posted By: unsupervised
lol, I know... I think satainists would actually be nicer people :grin:
It depends on how much you have in common with them as opposed to somebody like me. Your call.
you have more in common with that poor girl's parents
Like you would really know.
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lolyou are nuts, ya know that right?10 pages of posts, speaking out against those who are different than yourself and how children should not be taught acceptance. You are exactly like those white supremists (did you read the articel?)