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Originally Posted By: ineligibleI dispute this claim. What evidence do you present? (Note: assertions are not evidence.)  Originally Posted By: thorassert assert assert blah blah blah convert or die? thank god christians have never used that tactic

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Originally Posted By: unsupervised  Originally Posted By: ineligibleI dispute this claim. What evidence do you present? (Note: assertions are not evidence.)  Originally Posted By: thorassert assert assert blah blah blah convert or die? thank god christians have never used that tactic Only the Catholic church, and hundreds of years ago at that. How about we stick to something more recent and relevant...say, something that's happened since you've been alive to see it for yourself?The "convert or die" concept is nothing new to the Muslim religion either. Study your history, if you can. But to keep it recent, when was the last time you saw Christians running around torching Muslim churches? OK...now how about the reverse? Reality is a telling thing...for those who have the stomach to hear it without burying their heads in the sand.

Sadly, I don't think I've ever seen that, anywhere. Heard of it? Nope, not anywhere...Not like it matters anyway, because what I say doesn't count to you.

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But to keep it recent, when was the last time you saw Christians running around torching Muslim churches?
This year:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20090702/pl_usnw/cair__calif__imam_dies_in__suspicious__fire and http://www.desertdispatch.com/news/yermo-6382-fire-human.html
Also http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami-dade/west-kendall/story/1137149.html
http://www.pakspectator.com/mosque-burned-in-athens-greece/

2008:
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L868096.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/lincolnshire/7589455.stm and compare http://sioe.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/wannabe-mosque-burnt-down-in-lincoln/

2005:
http://articles.latimes.com/2005/jun/04/local/me-mosque4
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/12783/mosque-burned-in-netherlands.html

These are just a few: there are many more examples.

For the traditional mobs-with-torches scenario on a large scale, see for example:

Malawi 1999-2001: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/374597.stm and http://www.darulihsan.com/index.php?view...ion=com_content

Kosovo 1998-9: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_27_116/ai_56908916/

god damned liberal dominated press!

Good finds, unfortunately, in his defense, he's going to argue, erm, "argue", that some of those are residential occurrences, and therefore should not be admissible in this discussion.Sorry, wanted to comment on them before, and I didn't have any time too, and it figures that I just got off a binge of Law and Order.

The first is residential, and the second is vandalism rather than arson, but I thought they were morally equivalent, and worth noting because they are so extremely recent. The third is genuine burning of a mosque.Of course there have also been similar acts against churches. It really means very little, since most Christians and most Muslims don't do such things. The majority should not be judged by the actions of a crazy minority.

Originally Posted By: Ineligible

The majority should not be judged by the actions of a crazy minority.
I believe I stated that earlier yet, strangely, thor ignored me :scream_cat:

Originally Posted By: Ineligible Quote: But to keep it recent, when was the last time you saw Christians running around torching Muslim churches?This year:http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20090702/pl_usnw/cair__calif__imam_dies_in__suspicious__fire and http://www.desertdispatch.com/news/yermo-6382-fire-human.htmlAlso http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami-dade/west-kendall/story/1137149.htmlhttp://www.pakspectator.com/mosque-burned-in-athens-greece/2008:http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L868096.htmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/lincolnshire/7589455.stm and compare http://sioe.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/wannabe-mosque-burnt-down-in-lincoln/2005:http://articles.latimes.com/2005/jun/04/local/me-mosque4http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/12783/mosque-burned-in-netherlands.htmlThese are just a few: there are many more examples.For the traditional mobs-with-torches scenario on a large scale, see for example:Malawi 1999-2001: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/374597.stm and http://www.darulihsan.com/index.php?view...ion=com_contentKosovo 1998-9: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_27_116/ai_56908916/ Without going into each one, much of what you posted was politically/socially motivated...not religious. But I'm glad you posted what you did. It shows just how biased and unrealistic you are. You completely left out the Muslims and their part in it...which is on a much larger scale.

Originally Posted By: unsupervised

god damned liberal dominated press!

It seems that with Ineligible as a Christian, liberals are not required. :wink:

Originally Posted By: unsupervised Originally Posted By: IneligibleThe majority should not be judged by the actions of a crazy minority. I believe I stated that earlier yet, strangely, thor ignored me The numbers and percentage of the "crazy minority" have been growing for a long time now. When they reach the level of being the majority, it will be the peaceful ones that are considered crazy. You folks live in such a bubble you just don't understand that you world is coming to an end. No, the sky is not falling...but I sometimes would rather it did.

Originally Posted By: thorYou folks live in such a bubble you just don't understand that you world is coming to an end. No, the sky is not falling...but I sometimes would rather it did. I think whats actually happening is that Christianity is losing its place as the dominant religion in the world and you're scared.

Originally Posted By: bobaliciousI think whats actually happening is that Christianity is losing its place as the dominant religion in the world and you're scared. True or not, that's not something I'm concerned with. Christians will certainly try to spread the word of God, but they largely don't cause death and destruction over it. The Muslims believe (and behave) differently...they will do more than simply "spread their word". They will eventually try and force it on everyone; violently, if necessary. That's you, me, and everyone esle who is not Muslim. Again, I will remind you of all this in another 40-50 years. It's gathering steam...even the liberal media can't hide it all.

I made it through about half of that. Once it brought Muslims into it I facepalmed and stopped it. Onoes! The terrorists are invading!

序尾段じゃねえよ！
Yet another fine example of how racist, maybe even classicist (apparently, I base this on things you've said) you truly are.
Sad that someone with such belief, and follows the bible so, can treat people like that. It's kind of ironic too, seeing as how blind you really are. Oh wait, no it's not...
I just don't understand the way that mouse in your head works sometimes...

you crack me up buddy. Sometimes you still manage to almost draw me into the belief that you actually believe the things you say. You're awesome at it.I'd love to meet you some day and share a beer on a sunny patio

Originally Posted By: thor Originally Posted By: bobaliciousI think whats actually happening is that Christianity is losing its place as the dominant religion in the world and you're scared. True or not, that's not something I'm concerned with. Christians will certainly try to spread the word of God, but they largely don't cause death and destruction over it. The Muslims believe (and behave) differently...they will do more than simply "spread their word". They will eventually try and force it on everyone; violently, if necessary. That's you, me, and everyone esle who is not Muslim. Again, I will remind you of all this in another 40-50 years. It's gathering steam...even the liberal media can't hide it all. OK, so in about 40-50 years, when we're both Muslims, we'll have a nice chat about how Mormons are taking over the world.

Originally Posted By: bobaliciousOK, so in about 40-50 years, when we're both Muslims, we'll have a nice chat about how Mormons are taking over the world. Nah...It'll be the Rosicrucians. Those guys got mad skillz!

Originally Posted By: damien]Nah...It'll be the Rosicrucians. Those guys got mad skillz! LMAO!you saucy monkey! Don't worry, the Masons keep the Rosicrucians in check. Absolutely nothing to worry about there, my friend.