Cutting

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I think I probably understand depression a tad bit more than you do.

depression isn't a gift, but intensity is!anger is a gift and a motor. Instead of bowing down, Roll over the small people that try to stop you and take glee in crushing them!

Someone I am close to is a cutter dude. I consider her depression hardly anything but a gift. She has to have a lot of help from her family and her friends. It's hardly a gift. More like a curse. But if you like it so much..you can have her depresion and addiction.

He can have mine too.

In reply to:depression is a gift,not a curse...yet its a disease,and not a lovemay we all find a home and an exit in our hearts,i bleed that so many of you ,like me,are hurting,sincerely till AugustAre you quoting some bad emo song lyric, or do you have a Jesus complex?Deprssion is a gift like haveing someone beat the crap out of you all day long is a gift. Do you think it builds character?

In reply to: Do you think it builds character? ya, it actually does. All adversity does except bring unemployed with no need to rectify the situation

All adversity does except [being] unemployed with no need to rectify the situationThat was a self-contradiction.

lol2:30 am2 ideas munched into 1 sentanceboth lost (oops)thanks for correcting my typo though

you misunderstood me,i ment you a gift as in you can take your depression and turn it into something beautiful if you want,you can stop cutting and write lots of beautiful emotional poetry,it does build character,just trying to see your opinion

Seriously, have you ever been depressed? I don't think you have because you have no idea what you're talking about ...

I know you mean well, but you're making light of a serious problem (that often has a physical cause).

In advance this post is to August_winterman (however it's spelled..sorry...too lazy to scroll up or even look up at the moment...)My sister is a cutter(yes that's right...the girl I'm close to is my sister). She promised her boyfriend she wouldn't do it anymore. So instead of cutting to avoid that she is depressed, we actually confront it together by writing. She's written some of the most beautiful songs I've ever seen. But she's also written some very dark things that make me shiver all the way to my core. Depression is NOT a toy that you play with. It's very serious. I help my sister by sitting with her and writing with her but sometimes...you just can't anymore. It becomes too strong for you. I'm praying that day won't come for my little sister but I know all too well it could very well being racing to her doorstep. Writing beautiful poetry is not a reason too look at depression itself as beautiful.

i would just like to say to all of you that your suffering is terrible and that is not a gift, but the insight that depression has the potential to give you IS. so in some respects i think i am agreeing with august. depression, when it is not completely debilitating, has the possibility of helping people to look at the world in a different light, often a better informed and more aware one. it often seems to me that part of happiness is having to look past all the horrible things in the world, people who have seen the other side have the potential to change the world from their better understanding of it. also, accepting the darker side of humanity helps us make our world a richer and more interesting place. i am not belittling the horrors of this illness, because i have experienced it as well, but having managed so far i could not say that i do not appreciate the different views that it has given me.

i feel very sorrowful that peaple attack me in this way,how can you doubt my depression,the name august winterman in itself means depression for those who didnt get it,i have felt depression at its worst,seen it at its darkest,and still i breath on this earth.do YOU know what its like.to be 16 years old,suicidal for 3 years non stop,fucking suicidal!countless times i was half a breath from killing myself.stabbing myself to death or shooting myself,or the limitless number of ways ive thought to kill myslef,the only thing,and i mean the only thingthat has kept me from killing myself,is the fear or burning in hell,and nothing more,how can you ask me if ive ever really been depressed! how! i feel like no one on earth has felt what i have,except for the ones who took it away,i ment no disrespect at all! to those depressed or a freind of one,depression is good,it builds character,and sorrow softens the eyes,but i wish anyone who was feeling anything close to what i feel would find happiness in life,and blossom into a beautiful person,i wish i could lose this ghost that follows me,depression is rotting my spirit away,yet i cant deny how its developed me into a beautiful person,dont mis understand me please.i wish we all could find eternal happiness,but until i leave my parents i cant,or until my heart mends and i find love i cant,and until God touches my soul and i feel His prescence i cant...i ment no sorrow to anyone,im sorry,please accept my apology and stop accusing me,and ill pray for you sister i promise if it means anything,i have almost fallen in the darkness,and i pray your sister doesnt cause its hard to climb back up

what? no one has anything to say to that?

I think everyone got up in arms because you claimed depression to be a "gift". I doubt many people see it that way and consider this affliction to be a curse.

thanks,i guess thats ok,i didnt accurately say what i meant,and i apologizied for it,if you dont accept it,i only apologize againim really sorry,it is a curse,i know it more than most peaple,if you read 3 posts up.i only meant that you can turn it into something good while its there, i opened this up to discuss cutting and it turned into chaos,my apologies 100 times,and thank you sdp,maybe i needed to know

I got into trouble in another thread for suggesting good could come from something that wasn't good. It's a concept that not everyone finds easy to understand or accept.I think, too, that you are a stronger person than many of us.

It's a very Christian concept, and a very Catholic concept. It provides an explanation for all the suffering in the world.

Hmm, if you mean that all evil exists so that good may come of it, I think you're taking O felix culpa further than was intended (and than any church teaches).