" CALLER: "Hi. Well, my question is, the Lord spoke to me approximately three years ago, and if the Lord spoke to you I was wondering if you'd become a believer."
Answer: "No, I'd check into Bellevue, which is what you should do..."
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I found a site that makes me ill
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In reply to: It sounds like there's a special place in hell for Mormons. My god (pun intended) Steve,I almost always agree wtih your posts and alot of them make me laugh, this one is no excetion to that. aside from smart ass remarks and the like if you really want to get into Mormon stuff I cant think of who wrote it, in Utah it ws hard for me to get damned hard I hadta order from online and have it shipped her a bookstore, including media play and all the othrs peope sugested to me, couldnt get it."No Man Knows My History" I could go upstairs and look on the bookcase to see who wrote it but Im really to lazy and when the g/f ets out of the shower Im outta here anyways and prolly wont be back till Monday so Ill keep this breif for anyone who wants to follow up on it....that book contains all sorts of shit about the mormons, its very wel researched and takes it information from church documents and jail house records, all of it verifiable and all of it is set in foot notes tellig the reader where to find it if they should care to go looking. Another book on that subject I really enjoyed was "The God Makers", both gret books that back up every claim. The first of them got e in alot of trouble because I would goto lunch and then sit inmy car in the parkinglot and read while I had a smoke. People would walk by and see what I was reading and go batshit. The mormons apparently put that on the hit list as very bad shit and members are not allowed to read it. That says alot to me about it that they dont want the people to read it and it is all every word backed up in writing, its all quotd from church history and paper and court documents. The information Iv found in it, whenI used to argue with the missionaries instead of slamming the door and threatening thier lives, they never had an answer for any of it and I have sent more then one pair of them screaming from my house, yelling shit at me about how im in league with the devil. They get very pissedd when I point out that I dont belive in his ass either.
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Just cause you dont believe in it doesnt mean you make fun of people who do
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I haven't read the books, but I've read some of that stuff. The only thing that seems, ehh, weirder is Scientology. The Scientologists have a lot of lawyers, and they will f**k you up if you publish anything about their mysterious secrets. (A while back, somone who wrote an article for Time magazine about the cult felt their wrath. The Scientologists claim that their doctrine is copyrighted.)It hasn't been that long the Mormons promoted blacks from being inherently evil to being OK.(My apologies for using "Mormon" and "LDS" interchangeably.)
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If you make fun of every religious belief, then is it OK?Seriously, read about Scientology and try to keep a straight face. I dare you.
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Oh thats fine, i just hate it when people pick at one inperticular. And i know you make fun of everyone, but he sounded like he was just against mormons
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This website is one of the most appalling I've ever seen and believe me, I've seen a lot of sick, twisted, hateful websites. Unfortunately, like many of the other hate sites out there, this one doesn't appear to actually be breaking any laws (I could be wrong on this since I am not a lawyer) no matter how repugnant it is and under the US constitution, the vile piece of filth responsible for its inception and the revolting specimens of sub-humanity responsible for its content and maintenance are protected under freedom of speech rights.Java: You say that Benedict is a Nazi because he joined the Hitler youth. However, when he joined, membership was compulsory. Had he refused he would certainly have been subject to some sort of punishment from the local authorities and so would his parents.Homicidal Possum: Murder is a sin for which one can be forgiven in every Christian denomination I've heard of, in fact in the Catholic church, there is only 1 sin for which forgiveness is impossible. That sin is suicide because it's the only sin for which you can never repent.
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there is only 1 sin for which forgiveness is impossible. ... suicideDid you look over the Mark 3:20-30 discussion, above? Apparently, if you equate Jesus with Satan, you've stepped over the you-are-permanently-screwed line. But the wording is a bit difficult to follow.
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In reply to:You say that Benedict is a Nazi because he joined the Hitler youth. However, when he joined, membership was compulsory. Had he refused he would certainly have been subject to some sort of punishment from the local authorities and so would his parents. So thats why he turned his jewish friend in who was in hiding? No one would have known had he not. Wait, You accept a god that forgives a person who brutelly rapes and kills another?
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In Christianity, that is the case. He didn't disclose his own religious beliefs.
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Yikes your right, disreagaurd that last statement to this:How could comeone believe in a god that forgives someone that brutelly rapes and kills another
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In reply to:No one would have known had he not. How do you know that? Maybe they did know, or were suspicious, that he knew where he was. Then there could have been a lot of pressure on him, and it is a given that the Nazis were well feared and with good right as well!
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He sent his friend to be murdered and tortured.
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I have to confess that I didn't know about him allegedly handing over his Jewish friend but as SteveA points out, there are any number of reasons why he did this (if he actually did it) and it may be that by not doing so, he placed himself and/or his family in danger of retribution. It's easy to say that he should not have done it but since I wasn't there and am unaware of the exact circumstances (something which I could only get if I spoke to everybody who was alive, in that place, at that time) I cannot presume to know the reasons behind his actions.Also, just for clarification purposes, I have no strong religious beliefs. I was raised a Catholic but I decided about 10 years ago that an organised religion of this nature was not right for me. As a scientist at heart, I am naturally sceptical of anything which cannot be empirically proven. This does not mean that God does not exist, it merely means that an alternative explanation, which does not necessitate the workings of some inexplicable being, can be found for most of what we experience in our universe. For those things that we can't yet explain, it is perfectly reasonable to believe that we simply don't have the necessary knowledge yet and in many cases (though I won't insist in all cases) it is logically MORE reasonable to believe that such an explanation will be found at some point in the future.Having said this, I would never criticise anybody's religious beliefs unless those beliefs are patently damaging in some way.
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In reply to:
Did you look over the Mark 3:20-30 discussion, above? Apparently, if you equate Jesus with Satan, you've stepped over the you-are-permanently-screwed line. But the wording is a bit difficult to follow.
You're right about it being a bit difficult to follow but yes, I did read that bit on about.com. However, it's been made clear by the Catholic church (and it was that organisation to which I was specifically referring) that even this sort of terrible blasphemy can be forgiven if the blasphemer is truly penitent and seeks out the forgiveness of God before his/her death. With a successful suicide, the sinner cannot repent and cannot seek out forgiveness after committing the sin.
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Hopefully it was in that order.
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you already said that.
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>>H.p> I am a christian because I believe in God but I didnt say I was a good one
It sounds like you could also be a Jew or a Moslem. I just can't grasp the concept of being a Christian, but connsciously not being a good one. I don't see the point. Is it just to get your foot in the heaven door? It doesn't do anyone else any good.
I am a Christian because I believe it, I am not a very good one because I dont do everything I am supposed to. Yes There is no point but I honestly can be arsed.
18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book;
19 if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away that person's share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
It sounds like there's a special place in hell for Mormons.
Again steve all in the interperatation. This one took me a few seconds to realise. But its implying that if anyone changes the bible and adds stuff into it they are fucked.
The book or mormans not adding to the bible its a completely other book that has nothing to do with the bible. Well it does in a few ways.
>20 The one who testifies to these things says, "Surely I am coming soon."
Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!
I guess God has a different idea if "soon" than I do.
Maybe he likes to keep people on their toes :grin:
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Oh no, I dont make fun of any of it, unless they are bothering me.I just have to deal on a constnt basis with the mormons or lds or what ever they are calling htemselves these days, it changes ya know? they come to my door and bother me despite the fact that i tel them to go sell thier shit else where. if it were catholics or something else, Id abuse them just the same. They come here and so I bother them when they do. the johova (sp?) witness ones come around Iv found that they really hate to be yelled at while throwing salt at them and they boogy outta here fast like.As the Mormons bother me the most often, Iv had cause to stufy thier shit more often and turn it against them. Thats all but Im against any form of organized god fearers. or lovers or what ever. I do feel though that itts a deeply personal thing and if they left me alone, Id leave them teh hell alone. Its like being gay, I may not thinks its great for me but so long as noones trying to froce me into it, I dont care about it and figure everyone has a right to do wht they want, same thing here.
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The simple solution: answer your door in the nude. All you have to say is "Hi!", and they'll leave quickly. If you're an atheist or agnostic, though, it's yet another opporunity for a mindless religious debate.
