I hate my mom

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>> Still, she always talked about how she would understand and help me.

First of all, masturbation isn't a bad habit. So, you have every right not to accept her "help", since you aren't obliged to stop masturbating. Your mother exagggerates here and this seems to be perfectly clear. Of course, you're mad at her, since she really can't understand you and your needs.

If I were you, I'd act like a prick inside the house. I'd simply hang many posters with famous heavy metal bands (Cradle of filth, Cannibal corpse, etc) or nude gothic girls on my room's walls. You can improvise here and you can discorver many different ways to irritate your parents. You can't take your door back, but you can mess the whole house

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That's completely uncalled for and IMMATURE.

grvtykillr... wow can you say child abouse much? and also its finally time i saw someone that posted on pbnation and here... im mayonaise 812 there... and also how old are you? because if your like really young i could understand that but if your like 16... who cares?

I really don't understand those that are siding with the OP. Grvtykllr actually makes a good point, though in rather forceful way. Why is it that kids feel they are ENTITLED to what their parents have worked to obtain? The only things everyone is entitled to are those outlined in the US Declaration of Independence: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And even then, one can CHOOSE to screw things up and lose one or more of those.Wouldn't it be more mature for one to get a job and EARN the cost of a spykiller program, take it to your mother and explain how the computer got infiltrated and provide a solution so that it doesn't happen again rather than ranting like a spoiled brat? Independence always requires responsibility.

I don't think it should be a matter of taking sides. When people take sides, rational discussion gets neglected. My belief is that the mother has handled the situation very badly; however the OP has to take the situation as it is and make the best of it.In reply to:life, liberty, and the pursuit of happinessI have real trouble with taking the US Declaration of Independence and Constitution as sacred scripture. Even more so, when it's made exclusive rather than inclusive. Isn't that forbidden by the Ninth Amendment?

aww, the memories..i used to love that song when i was a kid, infact, i still no all the words...good times.p.s. congradulations, i give ur posts 10/10 for longest post ever...well done...and id yell at the guy also if i could b bothered

That's completely uncalled for and IMMATURE.Yes, it is. I never said that my way is the right decision. But, don't you think his parents act a bit immature here, too? I can allow my parents to forbid me from watching porn or buying porn magazines, if I'm under 18. But, I feel sorry for saying this, forbidding someone to masturbate sounds at least weird!

In reply to: over my knee and spanked till your ass was so red you coudnt sit for a week change was to is and couldn't to can't and you'd sound like my dad In reply to: dont be a dick to your parents (unless they abuse you kids that are abused USALLY are to scared to be dicks to them...or anyone else.

Child abuse my ass.
The biggest problem today is a total lack of respect by the youth.
Fuck time out. Its only taught them to be rotten little shits, that there is no serious punishment, that thier own parents cant touch them for discipline.
As a kid I got the shit knocked out of me whenI fucked up, and hte next time i went to do the same thing, I remeberd getting my ass busted for doing it last time, and i didnt pull the same stupid shit twice.
My kids, do not fuck up, they would never dare talk back like tht, they dont steal, are pulling high B averages, play sports for the school, have alot of self confidence, and seem to be pretty happy. Its been a long tie since they got thier ass busted, they know there is shit that happens when you fuck up, and rewards for not fucking up.
its not child abuse, its fucking discipline.

well yeah id agree with ineligble too,taking the door was to far,she may be his mother but she cant tell him not to masturbate,and she went way to far with the "i cant believe your my son" thats nothing a mother should say to her child ever,now the computer if they paid for it they can do with it what they want,though with that link id have to ask if you paid for it which in that case she can always take the internet out or just the network,and take the power cord or somethingand while the animal porn may have been from a virus which you can CALMLY try to approach her about, but you did say you had other porn on there (which is kinda stupid dude with a seemingly highly religious mother) which they can say what can and cannot be showed on their dime,so yeah you dont have a right to porn but you shouldnt need it,i dont, but masturbate where you can,bathroom or shower or right on your freakin bed if she wants to take the door away thats her fault your penis,your body not hers

"its not child abuse, its fucking discipline."In life there are consequences and kids need to learn this one as early as possible...or they're in for a rude awakening down the road.

Thats how I see it, I dont mean to knock the shit out of them each time they spil some milk, but actions have reactions.There was a day when being a hsit got you a trip to the woodshed, ook back on those days and tell me how much less crime and how much less serious crime there was. Parents today seem to not be very intersted in thier childrens lives, dont feel responsible for what thier kids do to the public, and dont bother to correct them.maybe they are afraid of the kid, or of hurting the child, or maybe they are afraid of being lokced up for child abuse.I dunno what the fucking problem is, but I know I dont suffer from it, and as a result, society doesnt suffer from my children. I cant say my children are perfect angels, they have both been involved in a share of trouble, but they did see that there are punishments recieved for negative actions.Throw apples at cars, get your ass beat lose the tv for a week, and all the video systems go in dads closet. break a window, same thing plus they got the oppertunity to work off that debt at the rate of a dollar an hour to pay dad back for buying the new window. shitty grades means a loss of privleges. playing video games on teh play station when your supposed to be cleaning your room, the second time ina day led to the destruction of the play station by dads foot and no replaceent bought.We dont often have the same problem 2 times in my household, and its been a long time since Iv realy had to get after either one of them for getting out of line.Now the 3 year old, hes another story...he hasnt beenbeaten yet, but hes had his hands slapped for getting into stuff, or a swat on teh ass for throwing a fit over a toy he wants in the store that was tod no to. Parents ahve an obligation to raise the kids to not become a burden on society, kids have a responsability to learn the needed lessons and grow up to become a productive meber of that society.spoiling them giving in all the time, and allowing htem to run untethered thru the streets an homes, does not teach them what they need to learn to contribute, instead of jsut contributing to its downfall.

In reply to: The biggest problem today is a total lack of respect by the youth. Hey! We respect people who deserve our respect! You have to earn them, we are human too!You sound like a strict dad, I bet your kids will be telling your grandkids they survived "Chances House of Horrors"

y kids get away with alot more then i ever did. im pretty eniant in most departments. I do expect not to be talked back to, to be told where they ar going and when they wil be home, to not be out vandelizing teh city, no drinking, aside from teh beer Ill let them each have one of when we go camping, that first night, by the fire. I expect ot have what i say heard, and followed thru on the first time i say it.In return they each have fskateboards that set me back a couple hundred dollars total, mountain bikes that cost me 300 for each of them, all the electronics they need, big stereos, a computer in thier room, the best in all the gear they need for the chosen sports they are involved in, my youngest wanted a guitar for christmas 2 years ago, I got him a very well made and not to cheap accousticf with the deal that he learned to play it, id buy him an electric later on. He then had lessons, and all the self help videos and books they make.He can Play, but he isnt interested in an electric, the other got a full drum set. They have it damed easy with me. They learned that doign whta your told and whts right instead of being in trouble all the time is easier and pays better then screwing up and losing my trust.an on teh subject of respect, Noone should have to earn it.its a given, That respect canbe lost in an instant, but you go into every metting of someone with that respect given, its up to them to keep it, and to advance it to anythign beyond a basic respect.think of it this way, we live on a lake, my kids spend a great deal of time swimming, ffishing and taking out the boat, the tennis courst are about 2 minutes of waking to get to, the basktball courts the same, the pool is across the street form them, the skatepark is less thena minute west of us.They have alot of freedom, so long as they inform me where they are going with who, and when they will be back and have a ton of shit here to choose to do.Does it really sound all that bad living with me? am I raly that strict because I insist on being treatd well by my kids and them getting good grades ?So long as they dont screw up, and act up, they have all the freedom in the world. they only have to let me know where, with who, and how long.And of course they are not allowed ot go out with friends I havent had in the house to meet before.Iv been the coach of the baskaetball team, iv given every bit of me to them. they have bene rock clibing since they were little an have thier own gear. ther ar rewards for being good, and showing respect the same as there are punishments for being a brat.

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Hey! We respect people who deserve our respect! You have to earn them, we are human too!

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I think you have it backwards. You will not get respect until you earn the respect of others. You are not going to get it just because "your human too". Wish life were the simple. If you think you deserve respect simple because you're human, you have a rude awakening bud.

And Chance doesn't sound like a strict dad, he sounds like a good dad, a dad who's actually pays attention to their child and values how his child act and will act in the future. He's what I call a Pro-Active Father. We need more pro-active parents in this world.

In reply to: So you're saying that it's okay for people to talk to teens any kind of way??? Don't put words in my mouth or statements I certainly did not say.To a point everyone deserves respect, but you cannot expect everyone to treat you in high regard simply because you're human. Life doesn't work that way, as well as it shouldn't. You should have to work for things in life, not expect things because your human.

I think there are right ways and wrong ways to talk to teens...but teens aren't the ones that get to decide for adults which is which. Sometimes the right way to talk to teens is a way they're not gonna like but is for their own good.

\*\*I have to say chance that how you bring up your kids means your a bad father, then im a bad mother, cos im the same.
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That's because you read more into my statement than was actually there. Sometimes you just have to read things for what they are.And Angel you're a fabulous mother, just as Chance is a great Dad.

Ditto what the guy above me said.